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[Imyremeshaw]

No, it's pretty well documented that he abused his children. The fact that this question could be asked only highlights how little you seem to know about the details of his abuse, OR, in your minds, the ends justify the means.

I think it's more nuisanced than that, but let me ask you this question, do the Jacksons get where they went and have been without Joe Jackson's work(supposed abuse + tough parenting)?

As a parent, I struggle everyday with being my child's best friend while being enforcer, shyt isn't easy at all......

 

[Matt504]

There’s discipline and abuse.

I wouldn’t call Joe Jackson an abuser

Michael first spoke openly about his childhood abuse in a 1993 interview with Oprah Winfrey. He said that during his childhood, he often cried from loneliness. Michael recalled that Joseph sat in a chair with a belt in his hand as Michael and his siblings rehearsed and that "if you didn't do it the right way, he would tear you up, really get you."

“My father teased me, he’d tell me I’m ugly. I love my father but I don’t know him. Am I angry with him? Sometimes I do get angry, yes. I don’t know him the way I’d like to know him. I just wish I could understand my father,” Jackson told Winfrey. “(He would beat me) because he wanted me to, I don’t know if I was his golden child or whatever it was, some may call it a strict disciplinarian or whatever, but he was very strict, very hard, very stern. And just a look would scare you. Frightened.”

Jackson also told the host that just the sight of his father would be enough to make him throw up, and that while he struggled with his feelings, he still did love Joe.

“I do love him, and I am forgiving,” Jackson said

“(Mother Katherine) was always the one in the background when he would lose his temper — hitting us and beating us. I hear it now. ‘Joe, no, you are going to kill them. No! No, Joe, it’s too much,’ and he would be breaking furniture and it was terrible,” Michael recalled. “He would make you strip nude first. He would oil you down. It would be a whole ritual. So when the foot of the — ironing cord hit you, it just, you know — and it was just like me dying. And he would just whip you all over your face, your back, everywhere… I would just give up, like there was nothing I could do, you know. And I hated him for it.”

"discipline"

 

[Matt504]

I think it's more nuisanced than that, but let me ask you this question, do the Jacksons get where they went and have been without Joe Jackson's work(supposed abuse + tough parenting)?

As a parent, I struggle everyday with being my child's best friend while being enforcer, shyt isn't easy at all......

Let's say the answer is a firm "no",

Let's imagine that if he didn't utterly terrorize his family, they all would have gone on to be very mediocre and lead normal lives.

“Time and age has changed him and he sees his grandchildren and he wants to be a better father. It is almost like the ship has sailed its course and it is so hard for me to accept this other guy that is not the guy I was raised with. I just wish he had learned that earlier,” Jackson said.

“I can’t see him as the new man. I am like an angel in front of him, like scared. One day he said to me, ‘Why are you scared of me?’ I couldn’t answer him. I felt like saying, ‘Do you know what you have done? Do you know what you have done to me?’”

Michael Jackson even reflected on the conversations he’d have with sister Janet regarding the day their father would finally kick the bucket.

“I’d say, ‘Janet, shut your eyes… Picture Joseph in a coffin. He’s dead. Do you feel sorry?’ She would go, ‘No.’ That’s just what we would do to each other as kids, we would play games like that,” he said. “And that’s how hateful we were… That’s how angry we were with him. And I love him today, but he was hard.”

 

[ThrobbingHood]

You try and raise 9 children in the ghetto of Gary Indiana. And then somehow use their talent to move your family to prosperity in California. He had to do what was necessary or have his children end up being statistics.

 

[Bigsuk]

If Michael is on national tv saying he only had 2 nose jobs and no other surgery then no disrespect he’s capable of lying about anything because Michael was full of shyt in regards to how many nose jobs or surgeries in general he had …. maybe joe was a little aggressive with his approach to things when Michael was younger which I understand was wrong but I definitely think Michael went over the top … but like I said before I think Michael was a bit of a diva and manipulator no offence if I upset anyone in the comments just been real …. 1 ov the greatest talents in music history but Michael was a strange character just my opinion…..

 

[Uno]

He is a piece of shyt

 

[Splakavellie504]

Questlove had Marlon, Tito, and Randy on his podcast Questlove Supreme and they even said that shyt was exaggerated. The whole interview is well worth listening to. It really made me truly respect Joe because they went into details on how Joe raised them and what their life was like pre fame.

 

[Diddly Drogba]

"discipline"

You soft

 

[Family Lives Matter]

What a hot take

 

[Space Cowboy]

No, it's pretty well documented that he abused his children. The fact that this question could be asked only highlights how little you seem to know about the details of his abuse, OR, in your minds, the ends justify the means.

What made Joe an abuser? Not disagreeing. Just wanting to get the facts from both sides. I've heard he was a serial adulterer and wouldn't hide that from his kids (would even bring his eldest along) but I don't know besides that.

Questlove had Marlon, Tito, and Randy on his podcast Questlove Supreme and they even said that shyt was exaggerated. The whole interview is well worth listening to. It really made me truly respect Joe because they went into details on how Joe raised them and what their life was like pre fame.

I'll give it a listen.

 

[King Poetic]

Joe was a worker and instilled that in his children which i like

Unfortunately for Joe and the kids Hollywood lifestyle got into they heads and mama was the only sane one when they move to California

 

[Sbp]

Grossly exaggerated