11/22/2025 DAZN: David Benavidez vs Anthony Yarde (WBC Light Heayweight Title) / Brian Norman Jr vs Devin Haney (WBO Welterweight Title)

[Mashal88]

This post was full of nothing

1. Still did not dispute that Turki did not want the Trilogy to happen
2. Still did not dispute that Turki wanted a Benavidez vs Beterbiev fight, which was reported that it was offered to Benavidez and it was supposed to be the main event on this card but Benavidez instead chose Yarde, "Because Benavidez won't face Beterbiev without a belt on the line"

You tried

Your post was literally made up. "Turki said himself" with no actual source. "Powers that be" with no source. I literally posted facts ans words from Turki himself. You're not here to actually have a conversation because you couldn't dispute anything I said. Feel free to provide actual sources. And not smileys.

 

[Mashal88]

But Turki didn't want to do the 2nd fight.

 

[UpAndComing]

Your post was literally made up. "Turki said himself" with no actual source. "Powers that be" with no source. I literally posted facts ans words from Turki himself. You're not here to actually have a conversation because you couldn't dispute anything I said. Feel free to provide actual sources. And not smileys.

#1

Beterbiev Eyes Cruiserweight Move After Potential Victory Against Bivol

"Artur Beterbiev has hinted at the possibility of moving up in weight if he secures victory in his undisputed light heavyweight showdown against WBA 175-lb champion Dmitry Bivol on October 12th in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia."

Should Beterbiev move up to the cruiserweight division, fans would eagerly anticipate a matchup between him and unbeaten IBF champion Jai Opetaia, widely regarded as the top fighter in the division."


Like I said, Beterbiev ALREADY wanting to move to Cruiserweight to possibly fight Jai before the 1st Bivol fight took place



#2





Rematch was forced by Turki because he felt it was unfair




#3



0:45

Beterbiev admitted after the 2nd fight, that he didn't even want to have a 2nd fight



This trilogy was not "automatic" like ya'll Benavidez fans are trying to spin it. Turki has been hot and cold about making this trilogy in the first place

#4




Chris Mannix plain and day stating HE WAS OFFERED THE FIGHT WITH BETERBIEV AND TURNED IT DOWN. But ya'll keep ignoring it for some reason



Now keep juelzing for your Benavidez BLATANTLY ducking

 

[UpAndComing]

But Turki didn't want to do the 2nd fight.

NOPE, we gonna gonna do that

Turki said himself, he had no plans to make a trilogy, that was not in his plans AT ALL. There was even hesitation to even make the 2nd fight because the powers that be wanted Beterbiev to face bigger names or for Beterbiev to go to Cruiserweight himself. But Turki allowed the 2nd fight cause of the controversial decision in the 1st fight. That Chris Mannix tweet was telling. "Benavidez was offered a Beterbiev fight, but didn't want to face him without a belt"

I said Turki wanted the 2nd fight. Are you purposely being illiterate to dap fish?

 

[Mashal88]

#1

Beterbiev Eyes Cruiserweight Move After Potential Victory Against Bivol

"Artur Beterbiev has hinted at the possibility of moving up in weight if he secures victory in his undisputed light heavyweight showdown against WBA 175-lb champion Dmitry Bivol on October 12th in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia."

Should Beterbiev move up to the cruiserweight division, fans would eagerly anticipate a matchup between him and unbeaten IBF champion Jai Opetaia, widely regarded as the top fighter in the division."


Like I said, Beterbiev ALREADY wanting to move to Cruiserweight to possibly fight Jai before the 1st Bivol fight took place



#2





Rematch was forced by Turki because he felt it was unfair




#3



0:45

Beterbiev admitted after the 2nd fight, that he didn't even want to have a 2nd fight



This trilogy was not "automatic" like ya'll Benavidez fans are trying to spin it. Turki has been hot and cold about making this trilogy in the first place

#4




Chris Mannix plain and day stating HE WAS OFFERED THE FIGHT WITH BETERBIEV AND TURNED IT DOWN. But ya'll keep ignoring it for some reason



Now keep juelzing for your Benavidez BLATANTLY ducking

So you reinforced what I posted, that Turki after the fight said he was going to make the 2nd fight. So you again reinforced that the 3rd fight was going to happen even if Beterbiev didn't want to do it initially. Beterbiev himself has said that he was waiting on the 3rd fight later on and accused Bivol of stalling a few months ago when he went for surgery. Benavidez himself said Turki didn't offer him Beterbiev. What reason does he have to lie? We already have precedent of Turki telling Bivol not to take the Benavidez fight. Why? Because he wants to conclude the trilogy. The Beterbiev fight was going to be a stay busy, similar to the fight Bivol took against Zinad when Beterbiev was injured. I'm not sure why you're so obsessed with "ducking". shyt is casual-like. I gave you examples of people saying similar shyt accusing Bivol and Beterbiev of ducking each other over the past 5 years. It's just a goofy conversation.

 

[NormanConnors]

Haney.

Yep Haney def should move higher on the list, moved up and got another belt. Other fighters get a cleaner welcoming matt when they do it, let's keep it fair

 

[UpAndComing]

So you reinforced what I posted, that Turki after the fight said he was going to make the 2nd fight. So you again reinforced that the 3rd fight was going to happen even if Beterbiev didn't want to do it initially. Beterbiev himself has said that he was waiting on the 3rd fight later on and accused Bivol of stalling a few months ago when he went for surgery. Benavidez himself said Turki didn't offer him Beterbiev. What reason does he have to lie? We already have precedent of Turki telling Bivol not to take the Benavidez fight. Why? Because he wants to conclude the trilogy. The Beterbiev fight was going to be a stay busy, similar to the fight Bivol took against Zinad when Beterbiev was injured. I'm not sure why you're so obsessed with "ducking". shyt is casual-like. I gave you examples of people saying similar shyt accusing Bivol and Beterbiev of ducking each other over the past 5 years. It's just a goofy conversation.

"Benavidez has no interest in fighting Beterbiev if there's no belt on the line"



Why do you keep ignoring this?

Sorry but whatever you do, you can't make this go away

 

[Mashal88]

I said Turki wanted the 2nd fight. Are you purposely being illiterate to dap fish?

You got it my boy. Let's just agree to disagree. Discussing "ducking" immediately after a great card and future good fights on the horizon is just a waste of time. Let's have more cordial conversations going forward.

 

[UpAndComing]

You got it my boy. Let's just agree to disagree. Discussing "ducking" immediately after a great card and future good fights on the horizon is just a waste of time. Let's have more cordial conversations going forward.

"Benavidez has no interest in fighting Beterbiev if there's no belt on the line"

I REPEAT, why are you ignoring this???

 

[UpAndComing]

@Mashal88 still can't address the Chris Mannix tweet like it doesn't exist


Ya'll fans are the reasons Boxers out here squirming past real competition for the bag, cause ya'll allow BS like this

 

[UpAndComing]

Mannix said David had no interest in fighting beterbiev because beterbiev didn't have a belt. So I'm assuming turki already approached him about that fight and he turned it down. Turks original plan was probably for tonight to be David vs beterbiev.

February 2025

"Hey David, would you ever fight Bivol or Beterbiev?"




"Bu bu Turki wants to make the fight in Saudi Arabia, but I'm a Vegas fighter, and all my fans are over here"

Then eventually fights in Saudi against Anthony Yarde

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

"Benavidez has no interest in fighting Beterbiev if there's no belt on the line"

I REPEAT, why are you ignoring this???

How is that ducking though? That's not fukking ducking.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

You really think this is a duck?

I'm surprised people can't see the plan. Bivol is just coming back from surgery and being out all year. He's not fighting David next. I think the Saudis want to wrap up the trilogy with Beterbiev.

Canelo Alvarez just lost and will likely lose to Terence again. His star is falling. David wants to take over the Mexican holidays. I can 100npercent guarantee he will fight Zurdo in May and win just fine, and then go back down in Sept for Msxican independence day and fight Bivol. So far David has ducked no one and has said several times he will fight Bivol and beat him. Beterbiev doesn't really have much left for David to be that wary. This is a very strategic move by David and the Saudis

Yeah maybe your'e right, I hadn't factored in the Bivol layoff, and Beterbiev is not a fighter you face without a belt or reward (plus his immediate future seems clouded by mysterious PED suspensions currently, scummy, sneaky b*stard), Zurdo has a belt, that's a big deal.

My thing is that Benavidez team know his strengths and weaknesses better than any.
His strengths are -
- Punch output, resilience, pressure, boxing smarts, years of ring nous and an innate sense and understanding of square and circle geometry.

His weaknesses are -
- Can get hit by counters from fighters that can take his shots or have a good block
- Is a walk forward fighter
- Have we seen him face world class volume punchers that can either hit you with combinations, punches from angles, or suffocate you with pressure?

Bivol, Beterbiev, both these boxers can match him for punch output, maybe his greatest attribute aside from boxing smarts and guard, but they also can take shots and deliver either counters, or relentless pressure.

Zurdo on the other hand has fairly low punch output, and especially so at 200, he loses to Benavidez off sheer punches landed round to round. If he could have stayed at 185 he should have, was an amazing size for the weight class when he was there, really the prototype bully at 185, which is why the Bivol win was grossly under appreciated.

I don't see Benavidez coming back to 185 after 200 though, thats a massive jump back down.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

How is that ducking though? That's not fukking ducking.

Yeah you've changed my tune on this tbh, he wants to stay active and chase belts, he's not getting that at 185 really for a minute, the other factor at play here is everyone is suggesting Bivol just walks into that fight, but who is to say he wouldn't duck Benavidez?

At 200 he has a huge payday (the biggest of his career), and another difficult fight against Zurdo, albeit a better match up for his style than Bivol or Beterbiev.

It just doesn't look good, given the propensity for fans and critics to argue the duck.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

This post was full of nothing

1. Still did not dispute that Turki did not want the Trilogy to happen
2. Still did not dispute that Turki wanted a Benavidez vs Beterbiev fight, which was reported that it was offered to Benavidez and it was supposed to be the main event on this card but Benavidez instead chose Yarde, "Because Benavidez won't face Beterbiev without a belt on the line"

You tried

Beterbiev is quietly having to serve a PEDS suspension atm though, he is out of the equation for any fights, in the short term at least.