12/26 ESPN+: Naoya Monster Inoue vs Marlon Tapales (Undisputed Super Bantamweight Championship)

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I use to watch a lot of Japanese MMA back in the day. Pride FC, Dream, Sengoku

All of those Japanese fighters and people that fought in Japan used to be juiced the fukk up.

Then all those same fighters once they moved over to America under USADA testing looked a lot different.

You bringing up Pride 20 years ago in relation to Inoue :mindblown:
 

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What I noticed about Inoue is that if he sees you as a legit threat, he comes into the ring almost super-humanly sharp while possessing exceptionally quick reflexes. I don’t know what he does in training, but it fukking works. I know some of it is psychology. I could tell he never really saw Tapales as a threat, because despite it being an awesome performance, he wasn’t as sharp as he normally is and he was letting dude hit him with punches he could’ve easily avoided at times. That dude that fought Fulton or Donaire in the 2nd fight gets Tapales outta there in 3/4 rounds.

I don’t see what Nery does to Gojira. He has some power, but I think he’d get stopped rather easily actually. I’m not sure why people want him to move up to 126 so badly. The only fighter there I think that would represent a highly intriguing fight would be Figueroa.

It’s the Monster’s world right now. :yeshrug:
Monster says he can't do tuneups..he can't mentally handle them lol...that's why he stays so sharp
 

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Never getting tired/never taking rounds off despite throwing nothing but power shots all fight.

He’s a naturally powerful puncher I can’t take that away from him, but his punches never, ever losing steam and him never being tired (no matter his work rate), makes it pretty obvious. Doesn’t matter how hard you train, no fighter functions at 100% every fight, all fight.

Were we watching the same fight? That wasnt a flash KO, he eventually wore Tapales down. Its also a lot easier to exert that much energy all fight when the other person is afraid of sitting on shyt because of the KO threat. Its not really shocking he looks fresh all fight when you think about it

Its not really bizarre to see those lighter weights have seeminly limitless stamina. I suppose they could all be EPO but if everyone is on it who cares tbh :yeshrug:
 

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Were we watching the same fight? That wasnt a flash KO, he eventually wore Tapales down. Its also a lot easier to exert that much energy all fight when the other person is afraid of sitting on shyt because of the KO threat. Its not really shocking he looks fresh all fight when you think about it

Its not really bizarre to see those lighter weights have seeminly limitless stamina. I suppose they could all be EPO but if everyone is on it who cares tbh :yeshrug:

He doesn’t even fight full tilt all fight. He doesn’t throw 1,000 punches a fight or anything like some of these boxers. He doesn’t have to. If you actually understand the sport, and know what you’re looking (not talking about you), he was fighting in spurts from like the 6th round on and resting in between those spurts. Hell, one of those rounds, I wanna say the 7th or 8th, he basically took off. It was the round was Herring was saying it was one of Tapales’ best rounds of the fight. Most fighters with great stamina really are masters of finding pockets of time to rest in the fight while still fighting. It’s a skill unto itself.

He’s a really smart fighter, though. He doesn’t throw everything with max power either. He changes speed and power throughout the fight. He does the Roy Jones shyt: comes out round 1-3 throwing near max power, lightens up from there unless he can catch you with a single devastating shot, and round 9/10 he ramps up the power again.
 

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I brought up testing in Japan.

To me anyone coming out them regions is suspicious.
I’m the last person to say that 90% of boxers aren’t on peds.

But it’s disingenuous to suggest that Japanese fighters are suspicious over Americanos, at best.

The timeline you gave was also the most prolific doping period in history for both American boxers/MMA and American athletes in general.
 

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He doesn’t even fight full tilt all fight. He doesn’t throw 1,000 punches a fight or anything like some of these boxers. He doesn’t have to. If you actually understand the sport, and know what you’re looking (not talking about you), he was fighting in spurts from like the 6th round on and resting in between those spurts. Hell, one of those rounds, I wanna say the 7th or 8th, he basically took off. It was the round was Herring was saying it was one of Tapales’ best rounds of the fight. Most fighters with great stamina really are masters of finding pockets of time to rest in the fight while still fighting. It’s a skill unto itself.

He’s a really smart fighter, though. He doesn’t throw everything with max power either. He changes speed and power throughout the fight. He does the Roy Jones shyt: comes out round 1-3 throwing near max power, lightens up from there unless he can catch you with a single devastating shot, and round 9/10 he ramps up the power again.

Dudes just want to hate.

Most of his matches dont even go late rounds to make what breh said applicable :mjlol:
 

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I’m the last person to say that 90% of boxers aren’t on peds.

But it’s disingenuous to suggest that Japanese fighters are suspicious over Americanos, at best.

The timeline you gave was also the most prolific doping period in history for both American boxers/MMA and American athletes in general.
you know what you right, my comments are out of line.
 

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The wild shyt is that dude is tough as fukk. He had a fractured orbital bone and was still slugging it out with a thunderous launcher in Donaire. shyt, we follow the sport, right? Ugas was wincing and literally covering up his eye with his glove mid match against Spence with that injury. shyt, Kell Brook was too. On top of that, he has a chin, chin.

Dude’s a problem. :picard:
 

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The wild shyt is that dude is tough as fukk. He had a fractured orbital bone and was still slugging it out with a thunderous launcher in Donaire. shyt, we follow the sport, right? Ugas was wincing and literally covering up his eye with his glove mid match against Spence with that injury. shyt, Kell Brook was too. On top of that, he has a chin, chin.

Dude’s a problem. :picard:


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I use to watch a lot of Japanese MMA back in the day. Pride FC, Dream, Sengoku

All of those Japanese fighters and people that fought in Japan used to be juiced the fukk up.

Then all those same fighters once they moved over to America under USADA testing looked a lot different.
Smh you can take all the steroids you want, it still ain’t gonna give you the skills of Inoue.
 

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Need a replay. Barely woke up lol

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Smh you can take all the steroids you want, it still ain’t gonna give you the skills of Inoue.
PEDS make you faster, stronger, able to train longer, and give you better endurance.

its can turn a average man into a beast, so what do you think it does for a man who already has elite genetics?

I didn't mean to derail this thread, let's move on from the PED talks.
 

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PEDS make you faster, stronger, able to train longer, and give you better endurance.

its can turn a average man into a beast, so what do you think it does for a man who already has elite genetics?

I didn't mean to derail this thread, let's move on from the PED talks.
:snoop:

Gawd ur fukkin dumb. Stfu loser.
 
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