$125 for web development help.

[onthereal]

If you paying for a rush product that’s what you’ll get.

 

[BasketCase]

This is how I end up with these kind of coworkers smh.

I don't blame you OP, your circumstances are what they are. It's a failure on the school system tbh putting people on the spot to resort to shyt like this. That's why to some folks degrees aren't necessary. Even in the real world sprint dates get pushed back.

But if it's a habit, you're going to have a lot of problems.

Tbh if this is a coding assignment and you don't want to do it, but want to code for a living, what is that really saying? Not trying to discourage you, but this is a real demanding field with some insecure and type-a personalities trying their best to make themselves feel validated, on top of the work itself. If you're not in it 100% and somewhat unstable already it can be pretty tough. That's not even specific to software engineering, but any field. Make sure you're really into it OP, life is too short to spend it working on something you don't enjoy at the root level.

The man said that he's depressed. Nothing is enjoyable when you're depressed, not even the things you normally love doing the most.

 

[TrebleMan]

The man said that he's depressed. Nothing is enjoyable when you're depressed, not even the things you normally love doing the most.

You still have to do it if you want to get it done though. Your feelings have nothing to do with getting things done.

I was depressed once as well breh. I know the feeling. On top of that, I was homeless in 2012/2013, literally I could get a hotel room maybe once every so often off money I had saved. I didn't feel like studying at that time either. Here I am a few years later a full blown software engineer and got promoted recently, despite having a few days where I did not want to go to work, but there I was coming in early and leaving late and making an impression not only on my co-workers and bosses, but myself as well. I'm here because of those times I spent in my car learning my craft and doing the work necessary when I could have given excuses to myself not to.

Dude had all day yesterday to get it done, but instead was on here and thanks to some people's advice, probably spent more time trying to look up shortcuts on websites where people would do it for him. Instead he could have spent the whole day taking a shot at it, for partial credit. Who knows, maybe dude could have hit a zone and blasted through some of it. But he didn't and everybody here filled his head up with BS. There was just no effort, which is why I show no sympathy here. If dude had said he'd do one half of the project (front end/back end) and somebody could help him/do the other half - that probably would have went a longer way. I'd have completely understood then - that's even how it gets done in the real world.

Part of the problem is folks enabling it, that makes people soft. I can't even believe sites like this exist, no wonder why so many "college educated" people are Trump voters, don't now shyt and have zero common sense but yet put in positions where they manage other people and/or are responsible for their livelihood. I remember Hilary Clinton's daughter going into Stanford to be a doctor, but had to drop out and major in something else because it was too difficult and professors weren't just passing her. No special treatment. Now everybody gets special treatment and an easy way out thanks to sites like those. The funny thing is, they'll complain that the interview process to get your foot in the door has got more difficult, well they'll have to in order to make sure you weren't one of those people who visits those sites.

When it comes down to it, this absolutely did nothing for him. The brain sees what you've done and creates your "story." When you look back you're either going to be more depressed or less depressed. It's better to set yourself up for less depression when you come back to reflect on your life. When he thinks about this another time, he's going to reflect on the time he failed. The story rather could have been about the time he triumphed. You create your story and your level of depression in many ways.

Other things of concern:

• How can you be a software engineer, but not want to code? If you don't want to code, you still have to code.
• We're talking about a final project he's had months to get it done.
• This is a full blown project and could have been put into a job portfolio. You need portfolios to get a job today. This not only would have got him a better grade, but would have helped when it came to looking for a job as well. You need a portfolio to be competitive with the thousands of other employees searching for jobs.
• Your circumstances build your character. Which way it builds it is going to be determined by your effort - did you look for a cop out or did you push through it? Did you build more entitlement or did you take responsibility? You can't control your circumstances, but like Eric Thomas once said "Don't cry to quit, you're already hurting, get a reward out of it. Cry to keep going."

 

[Ayo]

I wouldn't dust off my laptop lid and open it for $125. But best of luck to you Breh.

You'd definitely be able to find someone on UpWork.

 

[JLova]

This is how I end up with these kind of coworkers smh.

I don't blame you OP, your circumstances are what they are. It's a failure on the school system tbh putting people on the spot to resort to shyt like this. That's why to some folks degrees aren't necessary. Even in the real world sprint dates get pushed back.

But if it's a habit, you're going to have a lot of problems.

Tbh if this is a coding assignment and you don't want to do it, but want to code for a living, what is that really saying? Not trying to discourage you, but this is a real demanding field with some insecure and type-a personalities trying their best to make themselves feel validated, on top of the work itself. If you're not in it 100% and somewhat unstable already it can be pretty tough. That's not even specific to software engineering, but any field. Make sure you're really into it OP, life is too short to spend it working on something you don't enjoy at the root level.

This. I actually didn't like coding and switched programs in school....then I started working and doing the same damn thing. Only difference is I enjoyed it. Still, the hours upon hours of work and staring at screens over the years, is it worth it? Eh, I guess if you love it. But one thing is for sure, getting someone else to do your work is path to failure.

Do you know anyone that can start you off and get you on your way?

 

[staticshock]

You still have to do it if you want to get it done though. Your feelings have nothing to do with getting things done.

I was depressed once as well breh. I know the feeling. On top of that, I was homeless in 2012/2013, literally I could get a hotel room maybe once every so often off money I had saved. I didn't feel like studying at that time either. Here I am a few years later a full blown software engineer and got promoted recently, despite having a few days where I did not want to go to work, but there I was coming in early and leaving late and making an impression not only on my co-workers and bosses, but myself as well. I'm here because of those times I spent in my car learning my craft and doing the work necessary when I could have given excuses to myself not to.

Dude had all day yesterday to get it done, but instead was on here and thanks to some people's advice, probably spent more time trying to look up shortcuts on websites where people would do it for him. Instead he could have spent the whole day taking a shot at it, for partial credit. Who knows, maybe dude could have hit a zone and blasted through some of it. But he didn't and everybody here filled his head up with BS. There was just no effort, which is why I show no sympathy here. If dude had said he'd do one half of the project (front end/back end) and somebody could help him/do the other half - that probably would have went a longer way. I'd have completely understood then - that's even how it gets done in the real world.

Part of the problem is folks enabling it, that makes people soft. I can't even believe sites like this exist, no wonder why so many "college educated" people are Trump voters, don't now shyt and have zero common sense but yet put in positions where they manage other people and/or are responsible for their livelihood. I remember Hilary Clinton's daughter going into Stanford to be a doctor, but had to drop out and major in something else because it was too difficult and professors weren't just passing her. No special treatment. Now everybody gets special treatment and an easy way out thanks to sites like those. The funny thing is, they'll complain that the interview process to get your foot in the door has got more difficult, well they'll have to in order to make sure you weren't one of those people who visits those sites.

When it comes down to it, this absolutely did nothing for him. The brain sees what you've done and creates your "story." When you look back you're either going to be more depressed or less depressed. It's better to set yourself up for less depression when you come back to reflect on your life. When he thinks about this another time, he's going to reflect on the time he failed. The story rather could have been about the time he triumphed. You create your story and your level of depression in many ways.

Other things of concern:

• How can you be a software engineer, but not want to code? If you don't want to code, you still have to code.
• We're talking about a final project he's had months to get it done.
• This is a full blown project and could have been put into a job portfolio. You need portfolios to get a job today. This not only would have got him a better grade, but would have helped when it came to looking for a job as well. You need a portfolio to be competitive with the thousands of other employees searching for jobs.
• Your circumstances build your character. Which way it builds it is going to be determined by your effort - did you look for a cop out or did you push through it? Did you build more entitlement or did you take responsibility? You can't control your circumstances, but like Eric Thomas once said "Don't cry to quit, you're already hurting, get a reward out of it. Cry to keep going."

Real shyt.
No time for the weak in life. The hell are people in first world countries depressed for anyways.

After visiting 3rd world places and seeing how happy folks were I don’t feel sorry for anyone here who can’t get shyt done.

 

[Hoodoo Child]

This about to be a breeze

:Guard1:

 

[GoldCoastSaint]

You think jobs gonna care if someone depressed

They gonna find someone else to do that job.

That would be against the law, a violation of the American with Disabilities Act.

 

[kevm3]

You still have to do it if you want to get it done though. Your feelings have nothing to do with getting things done.

I was depressed once as well breh. I know the feeling. On top of that, I was homeless in 2012/2013, literally I could get a hotel room maybe once every so often off money I had saved. I didn't feel like studying at that time either. Here I am a few years later a full blown software engineer and got promoted recently, despite having a few days where I did not want to go to work, but there I was coming in early and leaving late and making an impression not only on my co-workers and bosses, but myself as well. I'm here because of those times I spent in my car learning my craft and doing the work necessary when I could have given excuses to myself not to.

Dude had all day yesterday to get it done, but instead was on here and thanks to some people's advice, probably spent more time trying to look up shortcuts on websites where people would do it for him. Instead he could have spent the whole day taking a shot at it, for partial credit. Who knows, maybe dude could have hit a zone and blasted through some of it. But he didn't and everybody here filled his head up with BS. There was just no effort, which is why I show no sympathy here. If dude had said he'd do one half of the project (front end/back end) and somebody could help him/do the other half - that probably would have went a longer way. I'd have completely understood then - that's even how it gets done in the real world.

Part of the problem is folks enabling it, that makes people soft. I can't even believe sites like this exist, no wonder why so many "college educated" people are Trump voters, don't now shyt and have zero common sense but yet put in positions where they manage other people and/or are responsible for their livelihood. I remember Hilary Clinton's daughter going into Stanford to be a doctor, but had to drop out and major in something else because it was too difficult and professors weren't just passing her. No special treatment. Now everybody gets special treatment and an easy way out thanks to sites like those. The funny thing is, they'll complain that the interview process to get your foot in the door has got more difficult, well they'll have to in order to make sure you weren't one of those people who visits those sites.

When it comes down to it, this absolutely did nothing for him. The brain sees what you've done and creates your "story." When you look back you're either going to be more depressed or less depressed. It's better to set yourself up for less depression when you come back to reflect on your life. When he thinks about this another time, he's going to reflect on the time he failed. The story rather could have been about the time he triumphed. You create your story and your level of depression in many ways.

Other things of concern:

• How can you be a software engineer, but not want to code? If you don't want to code, you still have to code.
• We're talking about a final project he's had months to get it done.
• This is a full blown project and could have been put into a job portfolio. You need portfolios to get a job today. This not only would have got him a better grade, but would have helped when it came to looking for a job as well. You need a portfolio to be competitive with the thousands of other employees searching for jobs.
• Your circumstances build your character. Which way it builds it is going to be determined by your effort - did you look for a cop out or did you push through it? Did you build more entitlement or did you take responsibility? You can't control your circumstances, but like Eric Thomas once said "Don't cry to quit, you're already hurting, get a reward out of it. Cry to keep going."

I keep telling cats if they don't like to program, stay away from this field. Those pre-coding bootcamp days had everyone hyped up thinking they'll learn for a few months and come out making 100k. These days, you really have to be on your p's and q's. The bootcamp flooded the market with candidates on the lower end, so it's hard to even get in the door in the first place in a lot of places.

As a programmer, it's hard to continually feast off of knowledge you learned 4 years ago since technology is progressing so quickly. You have to constantly be learning and keep your skill set up to date. The industry has started reaching maturity where the massive salaries are harder to get and you pretty much have to have 3 to 5 years of experience to get that. Most jobs want 3 to 5 years of experience period since they don't want to spend time developing junior developers.

I think bruh would have had a lot more success if he at least started the project in some form and then asked for assistance. He probably would have found people to help him out for free. This really isn't the field where you want to avoid doing the work because you will get exposed quickly... since this is what you'll be doing every day on the job.

 

[TrebleMan]

I keep telling cats if they don't like to program, stay away from this field. Those pre-coding bootcamp days had everyone hyped up thinking they'll learn for a few months and come out making 100k. These days, you really have to be on your p's and q's. The bootcamp flooded the market with candidates on the lower end, so it's hard to even get in the door in the first place in a lot of places.

As a programmer, it's hard to continually feast off of knowledge you learned 4 years ago since technology is progressing so quickly. You have to constantly be learning and keep your skill set up to date. The industry has started reaching maturity where the massive salaries are harder to get and you pretty much have to have 3 to 5 years of experience to get that. Most jobs want 3 to 5 years of experience period since they don't want to spend time developing junior developers.

I think bruh would have had a lot more success if he at least started the project in some form and then asked for assistance. He probably would have found people to help him out for free. This really isn't the field where you want to avoid doing the work because you will get exposed quickly... since this is what you'll be doing every day on the job.

Exactly.

A common misconception is that people think when they finish school, learn to code or learn any other skill and they get a job doing it, that their work life will be easier than somebody without the degree and/or skills.

Wrong. If anything it means more responsibility than somebody without the same credentials and/or skills. Your employers will expect you to know the material and to solve problems. Non-programmers don't now what asynchronous functions are, how to deal with concurrency for millions of users, etc. and we as developers/engineers must use these tools all the time on top of everything else we've learned and need to learn in order to solve problems.

I'm not trying to discourage OP. We're just trying to tell him something he needs to hear. If you put fort the effort, don't look for copouts/shortcuts/easy ways to bypass the learning process, but instead finish projects and stop trying to cheat the system, I guarantee that you will be a software engineer and a pretty competent one at that. I guarantee you that your work will also be life-changing for yourself and others. If you do those steps, there's no way you won't have a job in this field. But you got to put in the work like those before you, then not only will you learn the material but you change yourself and your way of thinking in the process. Spoiled people and amateurs want other people to do the work for them, they're imposters who get exposed and lapped. They play the game until they get passed the ball, then proceed to get exposed. A professional gets it done themselves or at least does their end while another professional does theirs. Decide whether you want to be a spoiled/amateur or a professional, you can't be both - it's got to be one or the other. But there's great news if you're an amateur: the path to being a professional is right there, you just have to walk it.

Choosing to walk this path and arriving at the destination means that when you approach new concepts from either previous/current technology or when the field/technology changes, you have a solid foundation to not only have the knowledge of putting the pieces together, but the confidence and toolbox to know how to get it done even if you don't know anything about the problem domain. But that all gets to be automatic once you form good habits - which a true professional has developed by walking that path and learning their lessons. One thing that helps me with this (because I know what it's like to try and avoid the problem) is getting that "Self Control" app, then when you're feeling like you're on the verge of goofing off on the internet and trying to get your shyt done, just say "fukk it" and punch that key on the app to block all websites/online distractions and now you have one less thing to worry about getting in your way. There's also the method of counting down: "5,4,3,2,1" and get to work right when you're finished counting down. Those are crutches, but I think them more as training wheels that will help build the habit where you won't need them anymore.

The next time OP steps into a similar situation, and gets discouraged to do the work, I hope he remembers these posts from the people who tried to help him so he can put his emotions to the side and get to work because he's going to appreciate that he did - despite his circumstances and despite his thoughts and emotions about those circumstances. Then he can look back at it all, as a professional, and give his advice to the next person he sees going down the wrong path and taking the worst approach possible to their own development.