17 year old boy killed after party(UPDATE: somebody charged)

[tmonster]

What.

So you telling me Soaring Hawk is a ghetto name? It might be a stupid name, but it's not ghetto.

why is it stupid and why is it not ghetto?

 

[tmonster]

So is making up fake ass names ghetto identity or Black Identity because as far as I've seen, most Black people making money aren't naming there children Youtheonegul

all names are made up though

 

[tmonster]

I get that. I also get Vagina isn't a name they would have given there daughters.

there are some good reasons for that
but what is wrong with Martavious?

 

[tmonster]

Has nothing to do w/ caping for white people.
Its about arguing against ignorance.

This whole argument started when a few of you got going w/ the whole Black people reject "black names" out of self hate argument.
shyt is lame. People just recognized a certain demographic made up these names...and they were your typical hood boogers.
Black folks need to stop letting hood folks represent us, and being fooled into the idea that the hood mentality is who we are.
The fukk I look like naming my child "laquencha" when the majority of people w/ that name struggle w/ saying Ask.

it's not about rejecting or not rejecting black names its about disparaging other people's choice and ascribing some sort of inferiority to these people because of their choice and criminality to th kids who have said names, and backing up those assertions with nothing but twisted logic and doing all this just because those people don't follow the script you are comfortable with. It's 2014, if people can accept gay marriage they can accept Martavious as a name.

 

[NZA]

no just low income hoodrats thinking their being creative. they were better off naming kids after cars

i know middle class black people with those cobbled together names. this really is becoming a part of our ethnic culture

 

[Nomad1]

Calm down internet black activist.

Martavious = Martinus (Martin) + vious suffix

So a nonsensical mishmash of Latin names magically becomes a black name?

A true black name can be derived from an actual black/African language.

This.

He straight sonned these guys with facts.

 

[jilla82]

it's not about rejecting or not rejecting black names its about disparaging other people's choice and ascribing some sort of inferiority to these people because of their choice and criminality to th kids who have said names, and backing up those assertions with nothing but twisted logic and doing all this just because those people don't follow the script you are comfortable with. It's 2014, if people can accept gay marriage they can accept Martavious as a name.

breh...im just talking reality.
People like to make choices knowing the consequences, and then complain later on when those consequences come to life.

You can ask a random group of people (regardless of race) what they think when they hear the name Shaniqua, and they are all going to say the same thing.
People w/ those types of names are going to get judged off top. Thats life. Im not saying its right, but we all have to be responsible for our choices. Why would you set your kid up like that?

I hate wearing dress clothes...but when the occasion calls for it, I put on a suit.
Thats life.

If you want to go against the grain...accept what comes with it.

 

[tmonster]

breh...im just talking reality.
People like to make choices knowing the consequences, and then complain later on when those consequences come to life.

You can ask a random group of people (regardless of race) what they think when they hear the name Shaniqua, and they are all going to say the same thing.
People w/ those types of names are going to get judged off top. Thats life. Im not saying its right, but we all have to be responsible for our choices. Why would you set your kid up like that?

I hate wearing dress clothes...but when the occasion calls for it, I put on a suit.
Thats life.

you're talking about a superficial reality and you are moving the goal post as often happens in THIS discussion

1. it's the crime is related to the name
response.............

then the goal post is moved to
2. the name determines success
and
3. disparage a whole group because of naming practices
response to 2 is usually
and
to 3

then the goal post is moved to
4. We are only concerned about the success of black people

of course in usual fashion
1. simple xenophobia is never explored or admitted to
2. The underlying racism is completely overlooked and sometimes surreptitiously condoned
3. the concept of justice and freedom are ignored

My point is simple
if your view of poor black people is that they are hoodrats, I am not shocked at all that their naming practices are seen by you as inferior; but please stop hiding your hatred behind flimsy convention, the departure from which you condone for others.

If you want to go against the grain...accept what comes with it.

Yeah like I was saying....*




*gattdamn, y'all really can't see what y'all doing

 

[jilla82]

you're talking about a superficial reality and you are moving the goal post as often happens in THIS discussion

1. it's the crime is related to the name
response.............

then the goal post is moved to
2. the name determines success
and
3. disparage a whole group because of naming practices
response to 2 is usually
and
to 3

then the goal post is moved to
4. We are only concerned about the success of black people

of course in usual fashion
1. simple xenophobia is never explored or admitted to
2. The underlying racism is completely overlooked and sometimes surreptitiously condoned
3. the concept of justice and freedom are ignored

My point is simple
if your view of poor black people is that they are hoodrats, I am not shocked at all that their naming practices are seen by you as inferior; but please stop hiding your hatred behind flimsy convention, the departure from which you condone for others.


Yeah like I was saying....*




*gattdamn, y'all really can't see what y'all doing

that read like a Michael Eric Dyson speech.

Man...you can act like poor black people are angles...but black folks in the hood are responsible for 50% of the murders in this country.
A "ghetto" name gets lumped up in all that nonsense the hood has to offer.

What you do w/ that is up to you.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Black folks need to stop letting hood folks represent us

 

[tmonster]

that read like a Michael Eric Dyson speech.

Man...you can act like poor black people are angles...but black folks in the hood are responsible for 50% of the murders in this country.

A "ghetto" name gets lumped up in all that nonsense the hood has to offer.

What you do w/ that is up to you.

I mean just read that to yourself
like I said, hate so pure it is invisible

 

[jilla82]

I mean just read that to yourself
like I said, hate so pure it is invisible

fam what I typed is reality.
If white people were 13% of the population but responsible for 50% of the murders in this country this board would be going crazy.
But you expect everyone in this country to respect the hood...why?

 

[tmonster]

fam what I typed is reality.
If white people were 13% of the population but responsible for 50% of the murders in this country this board would be going crazy.
But you expect everyone in this country to respect the hood...why?

sure fam but