Exactly when have you seen a street fight where one dude backed up to throw kicks from 10 feet
These UFC fans are so insecure that they say stupid ass shyt..
MMA nikkas acting like this kinda goofy shyt happens in the streets
180 Million Dollar Dance Connor vs FLoyd
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Exactly when have you seen a street fight where one dude backed up to throw kicks from 10 feet
These UFC fans are so insecure that they say stupid ass shyt..
MMA nikkas acting like this kinda goofy shyt happens in the streets
AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
Breh my whole life I've been dying to see someone do that shyt in a real life street fightExactly when have you seen a street fight where one dude backed up to throw kicks from 10 feet
These UFC fans are so insecure that they say stupid ass shyt..
MMA nikkas acting like this kinda goofy shyt happens in the streets
KingOFKings
All Star
Yes. I hate it when ppl try to make silly comparisons.
Boxing is a huge piece of MMA and is under the umbrella of MMA.
MMA = Mixed Martial Arts. The discipline called boxing is a Martial Art.
Some of the best UFC fighters today rely heavily on boxing. Almost all of them train boxing.
Yes, the "sport" of boxing is different than the "sport" of mma. However, Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, Muay Thai are all seperate sports with their own leagues as well...all of these disciplines including boxing & many more make up "mma".
David_TheMan
Banned
NahNah boxing isn't a huge piece of MMA.
boxing is so purely in technique and positioning about strictly punching that it leaves you at a complete and total disadvantage in MMA.
KingOFKings
All Star
Define MMA. It's mixed martial arts. There is no one go to art.
Tons of top level UFC fighters train multiple times per week in boxing to sharpen up their standup. It's a huge part of their stand up striking. Footwork, pivots, throwing punches from the hip etc.
Look at a guy like Cody Garbrandt as an example. Most of what he learned and uses comes straight from his boxing training and experience.
Nobody is saying fighters use pure boxing stances. It's the pivots and everything else you learn as boxing footwork dominates in the close range. There is not one discipline that dominates, however, lately boxing has been hot amongst the top fighters for stand up.
David_TheMan
Banned
MMA is what it is, boxing is hyper specialization of one facet of martial arts, pure hand to hand combat with rules.
Top UFC fighters will never train to be good boxers because what you have to train to be aware of in boxing is directly detrimental to you in MMA that you have to disregard it. Footwork, stance, pivoting, how you throw, must change in MMA. Same with kickboxing and trying to apply that to boxing. It doesn't work.
Cody Garbrandt wouldn't even be more than a journeyman in boxing.
I"m not talking about MMA, not a huge MMA fan, just talking more for boxing and how MMA does nothing for one in boxing and how boxing is bad for you MMA withou major adjustment.
True. Closest we ever saw John Jones come to lose was when he fought that equally tall white boy Gustafason who iirc had a strong amateur boxer background since he was a kid before making it over to MMA. He had good enough take-down defense, strength and reach that Jones couldn't muscle him to the ground.
The end result was Jones getting lit up while standing toe to toe. Well, both got lit up but it was eye opening seeing Jones taking all those punches to the face. A testament to Jones' chin and/or that white dude not having the same p4p punching power as a Tyrone Woodley or Rumble
KingOFKings
All Star
Can we agree that MMA is composed of different arts such as Boxing, Muay Thai, Kick Boxing, Jiu Jitsu, Sambo, Wrestling etc? Not the individual "sports" which they all are (with their own leagues), but as individual arts/disciplines?
Yes?
What is "MMA" footwork? There is no MMA footwork, it's a combination of different arts. pick one or combine. Tons of UFC fighters use boxing inspired footwork and it's widely regarded as being the most valuable.
What is an "MMA" pivot? There is no MMA pivot, it's a combination of different arts. pick one or combine.
What is a "MMA" punch? There is no MMA punch etc, boxing sure helps shore up those strikes though.
Top UFC Fighters are not training to be good at ANY one discipline, it's a combination..the same way "pure" muay thai standup isn't going to be effective, they are all variants and adjusted. It's all adjusted, that doesn't take the basis of the technique and training away.
So in your opinion, top UFC fighters that add boxing to their regiment 2-3 times a week are simply wasting their time as they are clearly learning nothing as nothing they learn is being transferred over to their "mixed" martial arts fights, nor is it effective? Is this your argument?
This is like saying wrestling, jiu jitsu or muay thai aren't big parts of MMA because they have to be adjusted........come on man. At the end of the day, MMA is fighting..and all of these techniques are going to be moulded to the fighters own style.
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Blackrogue
Superstar
There's absolutely no chance Floyd loses. I'd bet my family fortune and get the 1 percent Return Of He wins.
Logically there's no way this amateur boxer should win
Logically there's no way this amateur boxer should win
David_TheMan
Banned
MMA your stance must be wider to defend for take downs and kicks, this wider "incorrect" boxing stance is going to leave you unable to implement your boxing techniques like one would be accustomed to doing.
I never said wrestling, jiu jitsu, or muay thai aren't big parts, but they lend themselves better to MMA than boxing which because of its history is hyper hyper specialized compared to those other sports. Its the hyper specialization of boxing to its ruleset that makes it almost detrimental to MMA in adjusting to the wide range of attacks that one has to be aware of IMHO.
I think UFC fighters would be better served learning how to throw punches effectively in their sport and taking pieces away from boxing, than say going to a boxing gym and learning how to box from boxers.
GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
After that Pac-Horn fight, I'm upgrading Connor's chances of winning from "zero" to "could happen"
chosenaledge13
Superstar
We acting like Chuck Liddell didn't dominate mma with NO ground game, all stand up and a solid sprawl. Give a younger Floyd takedown defense training with his hand speed, awareness, and movement, he would be an elite fighter in his division...