1990s NBA teams vs Current teams.

[Malta]

Hold up, Green is an elite pf that a guy like Oakley would have trouble guarding? He's not even a got to offensive player. He gets his points hitting open shots working off of those other guys.

Oakley guarding Green off the dribble? Green doesn't just get points, he's a playmaking PF that uses the 3 line as a threat and will put the ball on the floor and pass to a teammate when help defense rotates to stop his drive. He's at 5.1apg for the playoffs

Doc was a pretty good defensive point guard.

I like Barnes and think he's an underrated player for the Warriors, but why couldn't Charles Smith guard him?

Kerr is a better coach than Pat Riley? Bruh, you're just talking. You're not making a good case at all.

The Knicks are getting washed by the Warriors, you're not beating the Warriors without ample three point shooting and multiple offensive threats .

 

[Malta]

This is exactly the point, look at how overrated the 90s are, dudes realistically think the 90s Knicks have a shot vs the Warriors, unreal


Yall talk about the rules making it easier for perimeter players to score, like John Starks was some caged beast that would be getting 28ppg without handchecking or some shyt.

 

[Gravity]

Oakley guarding Green off the dribble? Green doesn't just get points, he's a playmaking PF that uses the 3 line as a threat and will put the ball on the floor and pass to a teammate when help defense rotates to stop his drive. He's at 5.1apg for the playoffs

Most of Green's playmaking comes in the open court where he grabs the rebound and leads the break. He's a decent passer but they're not putting the ball in his hands in the half court offense allowing him to create. They don't even really ISO him when he's playing center. I wouldn't be too worried about a prime Oakley guarding Green. However I would be concerned about Green keeping a Oakley off the boards.

The Knicks are getting washed by the Warriors, you're not beating the Warriors without ample three point shooting and multiple offensive threats .

Except we just saw a non shooting Grizzlies team be ahead 2-1 in a 7 game series. If their point guard and lock down wing defender don't get slowed down by injuries then they could've very well won that series. So nah, it's not that simple bruh. I'm not saying that the 90'a Knicks would've definitely beat them but I can think of several teams from the 90s who I'd favor to beat them.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

if its not any trouble, some squads that i want to add to this conversation:
early '90s supersonics
mid '90s supersonics
hornets
warriors
suns
magic
how well do yall think they wouldve faired in the league nowadays. i think these squads wouldve been even better suited for this era.

I think the '95 Magic & '96 Supersonics win the title this year.

Especially the '95 Magic....I think they could play halfcourt & uptempo.Ho Grant & Shaq were big men who could run like Deers.

Penny on the break....Dennis Scott might drop 8 3's on you....Kenny Anderson..


You toss that team in a Delorean & let them get acclimated to the modern style of play...they dominate

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

90s jazz vs today's clippers would be a fun match-up DJ would poster the hell out of Ostertag though

95-96** sonics would be a top tier team. would they win? eh, probably not. but they wouldnt be walkovers at all..that series with the bulls probably shouldve gone 7.

edit:95-96 not 96-97

 

[Malta]

Most of Green's playmaking comes in the open court where he grabs the rebound and leads the break. He's a decent passer but they're not putting the ball in his hands in the half court offense allowing him to create. They don't even really ISO him when he's playing center. I wouldn't be too worried about a prime Oakley guarding Green. However I would be concerned about Green keeping a Oakley off the boards.

So, you expect Oakley to keep up with Green in transition? Just because he's not credited with an assist in the halfcourt doesn't mean his drive didn't lead to rotation by the defense and a pass leading to the pass for the open 3.

Except we just saw a non shooting Grizzlies team be ahead 2-1 in a 7 game series. If their point guard and lock down wing defender don't get slowed down by injuries then they could've very well won that series. So nah, it's not that simple bruh. I'm not saying that the 90'a Knicks would've definitely beat them but I can think of several teams from the 90s who I'd favor to beat them.

The Grizzlies lost and stop using them as an example, they are a "non shooting" team by todays standards, but would have led the NBA in 3s the year the Knicks won 60 games. Nevermind the fact they have more talent than those Knicks teams. Basically, who else on the Knicks could create a shot? Mike Conley would have been the second best player behind Pat for his entire playing career, and they have a guy like Jeff Green coming off the bench who would start for those old Knick teams. Ewing and a gang of role players isn't beating the Warriors, the fact you think they could just shows how overrated the 90s are, which is the entire point of the thread.

Oh, and the 2014 Spurs would destroy the 98-99 Spurs.

 

[Foxmulder]

The 90's Knicks are a worse version of the fukking Pacers. Offense was absolutely horrendous.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Nikkas overrate the fukk outta these current teams. Nikkas think draymon green is prime c webb and shyt with his playmaking or something. The 02 kings 00 blazers would wash the teams today. People bring up starting pgs but the fukking rockets just went to the wcf finals starting 40 year old terry. Miami made 4 straight finals starting wack ass mario chalmers. George hill was the starter on 2 pacer teams that made back to back ecf in 2013 and 2014. Nikkas focus on 1 player and dont look at the entire teams surrounding them

 

[Malta]

Nikkas overrate the fukk outta these current teams. Nikkas think draymon green is prime c webb and shyt with his playmaking or something. The 02 kings 00 blazers would wash the teams today. People bring up starting pgs but the fukking rockets just went to the wcf finals starting 40 year old terry. Miami made 4 straight finals starting wack ass mario chalmers. George hill was the starter on 2 pacer teams that made back to back ecf in 2013 and 2014. Nikkas focus on 1 player and dont look at the entire teams surrounding them

The Kings were ass on defense, you don't seem to realize this Warriors team, and a lot of the other high volume 3 point shooting teams can actually play defense and will readily give up the 2 point shot to you because they understand that it's going to take more made shots from you to equal what they can do from 3. Those Kings teams gave up 5 threes a game, on 15 attempts, the Warriors would take 30 and make 10, game over.


Also, the fact you're bringing up teams from the 00s is comical, when the thread is about the 90s

 

[ghostwriterx]

Hold up, Green is an elite pf that a guy like Oakley would have trouble guarding? He's not even a got to offensive player. He gets his points hitting open shots working off of those other guys

I noticed how you ignored Blake, Aldridge and Davis.

Draymond can put the ball on the floor and run the break, he can also stretch the floor. Oakley would have to come out of the paint (where he was most effective defensively) to guard him and would be lost trying to keep up with him in transition.

Doc was a pretty good defensive point guard.

Doc was 31 and well past his prime at that time. He was about 2 years away from being out of the game. Never started again after his first year with the Knicks.

I like Barnes and think he's an underrated player for the Warriors, but why couldn't Charles Smith guard him?

Charles Smith was 6'10" with no lost post game and no athleticism. He would not be able to guard Barnes on the perimeter and he wasn't going to make him pay in the post.

Kerr is a better coach than Pat Riley? Bruh, you're just talking. You're not making a good case at all.There's absolutely no reason that he couldn't. How much better would you say that Magic was than this current Clippers team?

At no point did I say Kerr was better than Riles. I'm simply saying that coaching in general is a lot more advanced offensively and defensively than it was in the 90s.

 

[Malta]

These analytic teams from today are literally using schemes and gameplans designed to beat teams that can't hit the 3, yet dudes think the Knicks could somehow overcome the fact they couldn't make 3s.


These squads will take 30 threes to make 10-12 of them and that sheer volume is insanely hard to overcome.

 

[ghostwriterx]

So, you expect Oakley to keep up with Green in transition? Just because he's not credited with an assist in the halfcourt doesn't mean his drive didn't lead to rotation by the defense and a pass leading to the pass for the open 3.








The Grizzlies lost and stop using them as an example, they are a "non shooting" team by todays standards, but would have led the NBA in 3s the year the Knicks won 60 games. Nevermind the fact they have more talent than those Knicks teams. Basically, who else on the Knicks could create a shot? Mike Conley would have been the second best player behind Pat for his entire playing career, and they have a guy like Jeff Green coming off the bench who would start for those old Knick teams. Ewing and a gang of role players isn't beating the Warriors, the fact you think they could just shows how overrated the 90s are, which is the entire point of the thread.

Oh, and the 2014 Spurs would destroy the 98-99 Spurs.

35 year old Mario Elie and Avery Johnson, worst starting backourt on a Finals team ever?
And they were't even the worst guards in the series, because Charlie Ward was starting for the Knicks.

 

[Malta]

35 year old Mario Elie and Avery Johnson, worst starting backourt on a Finals team ever?
And they were't even the worst guards in the series, because Charlie Ward was starting for the Knicks.

The lack of appreciation for the current NBA is just disgusting to me, Knicks beating the Warriors is just straight up

I'm probably the biggest fan of low post players on here, but even I can see that in the current NBA you're going to need to surround them with shooters for them to be at their most effective and win.

 

[Jplaya2023]

@Malta really the biggest difference between the 99 and 00 blazers was pippen who was 35 and had a fried back at the time playing for them

You shyt on the knicks but they were a bad john starks in game 6 away from beating a rocket team (sans drexler and a 23 9 three point distance) that you said would do serious damage in today's game.

Also did you ever explain why the 95 bulls starting kukoc at stretch 4 lost to orla do (a team you said would do work today) but added a pf who couldnt shoot out the paint swept that same team next year

 

[Jplaya2023]

The 99 spurs would have by far the best player in the series and id argue 2nd best with d rob. Splittwr and old duncan and diaw get abused. So parker gets by a very so what you got 2 7 footers in the paint shutting shyr down. Leonard would score but hes proven to dissapear in the playoffs seee game 6 and 7 vs the clippers. Coaching would be even.