2,000 DEAD in Nigerian Terrorist Attack

[timothy_strickland]

11 french cacs killed versus 2000 black nigerians killed...


Not a big story according to media...I dont see a lot of coverage compared to what happened in france

Man, if 2000 cacs would have been killed in fukking france, in the same exact situation, there would be martial law there, and they would have put all the muslims in concentration camps....

Meanwhile in nigeria, its life goes on, as if nothing happened


to the media black lives dont even have value smh

 

[Poitier]

Chad is helping Boko Haram.

Can you elaborate? Motive?

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Can you elaborate? Motive?

I've read reports (largely from Sahara Reporters and Africa Confidential) that

A) Boko Haram fighters are sheltering/training and getting weapons in Chad.
B) Negotiations between Boko Haram and the Nigerian government have taken place in Chad, hosted by the President of Chad.
C) Stolen vehicles, furniture and other goods have been taken to Chad after raids in North-Eastern Nigeria.

Also, why hasn't Chad been attacked? Cameroon and Niger have - why not Chad?

Chad's involvement in this is becoming more and more curious.

I'm using inductive reasoning yes, but I'm beginning to suspect Chad's involvement in this.

If we had a smart President, Goodluck would fly to Khartoum to join with Bashir to fund anti-Chadian rebels.

Motive?

To destabilize Nigeria. To prevent oil exploration around Lake Chad without the consent of Chad. To have a sphere of influence in populous Northern Nigeria.

 

[HookersandIceCream]

Can they get their necks chopped off for "blaspheming" against a "prophet" who's been dead for 1400 years?
I see you just asking obvious questions... feed me more...

That doesn't sound like a restriction.
I can move around pretty freely if I don't purposely insult someone's belief
That doesn't that bad


The KKK exists in the US and hates on skin color.I don't see anyone condemning the entire US for this. Now who should be more afraid of?

Can I go into a mall or movie theater here without some white person shooting it up? Oh it only happened once or twice

 

[Poitier]

I've read reports (largely from Sahara Reporters and Africa Confidential) that

A) Boko Haram fighters are sheltering/training and getting weapons in Chad.
B) Negotiations between Boko Haram and the Nigerian government have taken place in Chad, hosted by the President of Chad.
C) Stolen vehicles, furniture and other goods have been taken to Chad after raids in North-Eastern Nigeria.

Also, why hasn't Chad been attacked? Cameroon and Niger have - why not Chad?

Chad's involvement in this is becoming more and more curious.

I'm using inductive reasoning yes, but I'm beginning to suspect Chad's involvement in this.

If we had a smart President, Goodluck would fly to Khartoum to join with Bashir to fund anti-Chadian rebels.

Motive?

To destabilize Nigeria. To prevent oil exploration around Lake Chad without the consent of Chad. To have a sphere of influence in populous Northern Nigeria.

Jonathan has not even spoken about the massacre, only the killings in France

I hear the youth have been destroying his campaign vehicles, billboards, etc

 

[NegroTurbo]

"Visiting London last week, I was interviewed by Kayode Ogundamisi on his live political program on BEN Television, “Politricks with KO.” The interview touched on the subject of presidential performance. I asserted that President Goodluck Jonathan, like Olusegun Obasanjo before him, had failed to deliver result-oriented leadership. Soon after, two or three callers questioned my assessment. One, a resident of London, reeled off a few roads he alleged that the Jonathan administration was building. He, or another caller, reminded me that the president had set up new universities. They insisted that the president deserved praise for getting round to roads and the setting up of new universities. Another, also resident in London, sought to remind me and viewers that Mr. Obasanjo’s presidency was marked by impressive feats, among them the payment of a huge chunk of Nigeria’s external debt and the husbanding of mobile telephony.

The sense of fervour in the two callers’ voices was sad to behold. If they had never been to a society where things work, I would have understood their misplaced advocacy. I reminded them that no serious leader today would have the temerity to list the building of roads as one of his or her achievements. The mayor of London, I argued, would be run out of the city if he ever tried to campaign on his road repair record.

-London is not Nigeria, building roads is extremely important in a developing nation that needs infrastructure in order to progress. Roads and efficient transportation are basic building blocks of any economy.

British citizens and residents take good roads for granted, which is as it should be. On the matter of Mr. Jonathan’s new-fangled universities, it was enough to tell my interlocutor that the government had not lived up to its obligation to fund existing universities. What, then, was the sense in creating more?

-Building more Universities in the North to serve an oft ignored section of the population and to dry up the crop of poorly educated masses which can easily be exploited by groups like BH is the sense. It is the exact same solution which you earlier proposed in this thread. The problem of funding speaks to corruption in bureaucracy not the lack of capacity of the Federal government to fund them.

Mr. Obasanjo’s payment of jumbo sums to Nigeria’s external creditors never struck me as an achievement – not when he made the payment and not in retrospect. A more visionary leader might have used all that cash to improve his country’s ghastly infrastructure. Why transfer nearly $20 billion to creditors when Nigerians have no healthcare, no electric power,*ondependable network of roads, and no waste disposal system?

-You pay off these back breaking loans at $20 billion so they don't cost you 30,40,50,60,100 billion down the line. Why waste all that money on interest when you can pay off your creditors and use the money you would have wasted on interest to address all the things mentioned in the rest of this article.
* Lol, in the beginning of this article He complains about Jonathan highlighting building roads and here he complains about not having a dependable network of roads.

Why hand over such princely sum when our public schools, from kindergartens to universities, are in heartrending shape? Why invest in the Paris and London Clubs when the failure to address Nigeria’s electric power woes remains a huge impediment to Nigerian businesses, hampers economic enterprise, and leaves hordes of Nigerian graduates unemployed? What was the sense in serving the interests of external creditors – many of them complicit in the mismanagement of the loans they gave – when Nigeria’s climate of insecurity gets worse by the day? In short, why hasten to pay the foreign Peter and Paul whilst neglecting the plight of the Nigerian Musa, Okoye and Adebayo?"

-How can you take this article seriously? He complains that Jonathan should not list building roads and universities as accomplishments but then says that money should be spent on roads and universities!?
-How is paying off your debts serving the interests of external creditors? Which scenario do you think makes Visa or MasterCard happier: paying off your loans in full in a lump sum, making minimum payments for the rest of your life or defaulting on your loan and giving them direct access to your assets? I'll give you a hint it's never the first option.

This article is ridiculous.

 

[NegroTurbo]

can't have it both ways

Don't need it to be both ways, just need it to be genuine. If it was genuine the 10,000 plus casualties of BH so far would get just as much attention as the 200 kidnapped girls.

 

[Poitier]

-How can you take this article seriously? He complains that Jonathan should not list building roads and universities as accomplishments but then says that money should be spent on roads and universities!?

No, he is saying that if your accomplishments as a President is building roads and universities then you probably aren't a good leader.

-How is paying off your debts serving the interests of external creditors?

Because you have to take on debt to build a country. Paying off the debt and not taking on new debt = austerity = stagnation.

 

[Mowgli]

How can the media downplay that shyt?

2,000 lives is an international issue. In one attack. ONE attack.

How?

Black lives dont matter to white people.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Jonathan has not even spoken about the massacre, only the killings in France

I hear the youth have been destroying his campaign vehicles, billboards, etc

Jonathan is shrewd. He knows that if he comments on the Baga massacre, more Nigerians will know about the 2000 dead. He keeps mum because he hopes the Nigerian electorate will forget in a few weeks.

If I lived in Arewa, I would view Jonathan's government as criminal in regard to its inability to provide security. The Emir of Kano, Sanusi, was correct in telling Northerners to arms themselves. Obviously, the Nigerian government won't.

We must critically look at the Nigerian Army's inability to provide logistical support to its troops. I'm reading books on the US Civil War. The Union Army got thousands of mules, horses, trains etc. to transport food, ammunition, clothing and the like to its armies in the mid 19th century. The Union Army of 1865 puts to shame the Nigerian Army of 2015, which has at its disposal 21st century technology.

Why don't we have a military strategy to secure Nigeria's borders? That way, we starve Boko Haram of foreign support, materiel and manpower?

Why haven't we recruited tens of thousands of new soldiers to secure the North? 20,000 soldiers won't do it. We need at least a 10-to-1 advantage over Boko Haram. I estimate there's around 15,000 to 20,000 Boko Haram fighters therefore we need to double or triple the size of Nigerian army. Hasn't happened.

Why do our general retreat from our own territory? Why don't we outflank Boko Haram? Why do we wait for them to attack garrisons instead of taking the battle to them? Why aren't bad generals fired?

Nigeria's military leadership

 

[ejthompson23]

That doesn't sound like a restriction.
I can move around pretty freely if I don't purposely insult someone's belief
That doesn't that bad


The KKK exists in the US and hates on skin color.I don't see anyone condemning the entire US for this. Now who should be more afraid of?

Can I go into a mall or movie theater here without some white person shooting it up? Oh it only happened once or twice

So me not believing what you believe is enough for you to kill me? I hope you ain't black...

 

[NegroTurbo]

No, he is saying that if your accomplishments as a President is building roads and universities then you probably aren't a good leader.

-Makes no sense for him to say that while simultaneously asking for roads and universities to be built.


Because you have to take on debt to build a country. Paying off the debt and not taking on new debt = austerity = stagnation.

-I fundamentally disagree with this statement, you may not be able to build as quickly but you can definitely build.
But even going along with this model paying off your compounding, adjustable high interest rate credit card(IMF) and getting a fixed rate low interest credit card(China) is not a bad strategy.

 

[NegroTurbo]

Jonathan is shrewd. He knows that if he comments on the Baga massacre, more Nigerians will know about the 2000 dead. He keeps mum because he hopes the Nigerian electorate will forget in a few weeks.

If I lived in Arewa, I would view Jonathan's government as criminal in regard to its inability to provide security. The Emir of Kano, Sanusi, was correct in telling Northerners to arms themselves. Obviously, the Nigerian government won't.

We must critically look at the Nigerian Army's inability to provide logistical support to its troops. I'm reading books on the US Civil War. The Union Army got thousands of mules, horses, trains etc. to transport food, ammunition, clothing and the like to its armies in the mid 19th century. The Union Army of 1865 puts to shame the Nigerian Army of 2015, which has at its disposal 21st century technology.

Why don't we have a military strategy to secure Nigeria's borders? That way, we starve Boko Haram of foreign support, materiel and manpower?

Why haven't we recruited tens of thousands of new soldiers to secure the North? 20,000 soldiers won't do it. We need at least a 10-to-1 advantage over Boko Haram. I estimate there's around 15,000 to 20,000 Boko Haram fighters therefore we need to double or triple the size of Nigerian army. Hasn't happened.

Why do our general retreat from our own territory? Why don't we outflank Boko Haram? Why do we wait for them to attack garrisons instead of taking the battle to them? Why aren't bad generals fired?

Nigeria's military leadership

I think the short answer to all your observations is that the Military is not unified and has different factions with different loyalties. It wouldn't be unprecedented given Nigerias history of Military coups.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

I know it takes time to build an army. This blog shows how Nigeria is re-arming its army after a period of neglect from the 1990s until a few years ago
https://beegeagle.wordpress.com/

However, Boko Haram's success is so sudden and strange. Also, isn't it odd they're using the same Toyota-Truck warfare that Chad used against Libya in the 1980's..?

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

I think the short answer to all your observations is that the Military is not unified and has different factions with different loyalties. It wouldn't be unprecedented given Nigerias history of Military coups.

If that's the case, the Commander-in-Chief (Jonathan) should discipline the higher brass. If you fail, you're fired. If you succeed, you're promoted. Jonathan is playing politics with the territorial integrity of Nigeria.