2 lions vs 2 silver back Gorrillas. (Update: Video added)

[AFRAM GLORY]

Lion would would try to overpower the Gorilla and go for the neck. Gorilla is smarter and would prolly counter by trying to pound the back/spine of the lion to cripple it.

I'm rollin' with the gorillas

 

[Gold]

Tiger would fukk em all up

But a Gorilla can lift a car, so I think if he gets a hand on the Lion, its over.
But Lions don't mess around, they go for the neck and crush the windpipe...


I'm still rolling with DK over Simba

 

[Sword]

I think this has been covered already with little refute:
Lion vs Silverback Gorilla: who would win?

Two lions can kill almost anything, two gorllias would still struggle against a leopard.

 

[Address_Unknown]

Silverback can make a fist.
It can also lift shyt.
My money's on the Gorilla.

 

[Larry Lobster]

Lion.

 

[Gold]

Does seeing a Gorilla walk upright make anyone else go like

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Having this discussion once again...


I'm going with the Lion this time. It would be a tough fight but I agree that the lion would not want to engage in fear of being seriously injured. A lion is a hunter and needs to rely on being healthy to survive as such.

Gorillas on the other hand can escape and survive long periods of time until it can heal on its own


But I think if the lion does fight it has the claws that can seriously end a gorilla along with teeth.

But gorillas got a stronger bite so it can decide to chomp back and do some damage...


It's one of those situations where they might just give each other respect and go fukk with someone else

 

[Gold]

And that glass is tempered and thick. The amount of force they can generate is no joke

 

[Y2Dre]

And that glass is tempered and thick. The amount of force they can generate is no joke

Idk the stats of a lions skull and how much pressure it can take but I'm prettyyyy sure a gorilla would crush his head like an egg.

 

[Gold]

Idk the stats of a lions skull and how much pressure it can take but I'm prettyyyy sure a gorilla would crush his head like an egg.

Lions aint ready for this breh.

They got no hands

The got that Rhonda Rouesy head movement

The bytchmade

 

[Sword]

Idk the stats of a lions skull and how much pressure it can take but I'm prettyyyy sure a gorilla would crush his head like an egg.

Bite force

The lions muzzle is twice as big as the bears:

Melissa Haynes:

1,000 psi
https://books.google.com/books?id=fBHmJZ-E6DoC&pg=PA57&dq=.+Now+a+lion's+strength+lies+in+his&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4D2TVPvGF5DsoATW1IHIBQ&ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA

A lions bite is even stronger
Lion Vs. Tiger

Stephen wroe:

Stephen Wroe | University of New England - Australia - Academia.edu

5,600 N
Not Exactly Rocket Science

Juliet Eilperin:

560 kg Psi
Demon Fish

Dr. Geerat J. Vermeij. Biology:

4168 N
The Evolutionary World

Dr. Brady Barr:

2 year old lion cub 691 psi:


Dr. Karl kruszelnicki:

560 kg = 1244 Psi
Dinosaurs Aren't Dead

dikk dale:

700 lb lion 2,200Psi
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Google News Archive Search


Biologist Vermeij: 4,168 N = 937 Psi
Biologist Wroe: 5,600 N = 1258 Psi
Biologist Eilperin: 560 kg = 5533 N
700 lb lion: 2200 Psi = 9786 N
Biologist Barr: 2 year old lion 691 Psi = 3073.N
Biologist Haynes: 1,000 Psi = 4448 N
Biologist kruszelnicki: 560 kg = 1244 psi = 5533 N


If you do not know how to convert Psi into newtons or vice versa, you can type in numbers here and it will automatically convert it for you:
Convert newtons to pounds - Conversion of Measurement Units




And just because the tigers fangs are longer doesn’t mean it bites harder, smilodons fangs were double the size of tigers, and still smilodon bit 33% weaker than a lion:
Carnivoran Evolution

low as 1/3rd that of a lion:
North American Predators



One thing is for sure, the asiatic lion had a much bigger skull than the bengal in the past:

SKULL SIZE COMPAISON

Russian Biologist Vladimir Georgievich Heptner:

At the same time the largest skulls of lion are only slightly bigger than the largest skulls of tiger.
Mammals of the Soviet Union, Volume 2 Part 2 Carnivora (Hyenas and Cats)

Tiger No. 2 were exactly the same length of carcase, but the skull of the lion is the bigger.
Journal of the Bombay Natural History Society

Alfred Pease:
Sir Alfred Pease, 2nd Baronet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The lion's skull is on the average longer than the tiger's, but the skulls in average -breadth are about equal.
The Book of the Lion

Head of the smithsonian Biologist John seidensticker:

it has been suggested that the tiger may have a proportionally smaller head than the lion.
Tigers of the World


The tigers fangs cant take as much pressure as the lions:

 

[Y2Dre]

@Sword damn you sonned me

 

[Gold]

G

Bite force

The lions muzzle is twice as big as the bears:

Melissa Haynes:

1,000 psi
https://books.google.com/books?id=fBHmJZ-E6DoC&pg=PA57&dq=.+Now+a+lion's+strength+lies+in+his&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4D2TVPvGF5DsoATW1IHIBQ&ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA

A lions bite is even stronger
Lion Vs. Tiger

Stephen wroe:

Stephen Wroe | University of New England - Australia - Academia.edu

5,600 N
Not Exactly Rocket Science

Juliet Eilperin:

560 kg Psi
Demon Fish

Dr. Geerat J. Vermeij. Biology:

4168 N
The Evolutionary World

Dr. Brady Barr:

2 year old lion cub 691 psi:


Dr. Karl kruszelnicki:

560 kg = 1244 Psi
Dinosaurs Aren't Dead

dikk dale:

700 lb lion 2,200Psi
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Google News Archive Search


Biologist Vermeij: 4,168 N = 937 Psi
Biologist Wroe: 5,600 N = 1258 Psi
Biologist Eilperin: 560 kg = 5533 N
700 lb lion: 2200 Psi = 9786 N
Biologist Barr: 2 year old lion 691 Psi = 3073.N
Biologist Haynes: 1,000 Psi = 4448 N
Biologist kruszelnicki: 560 kg = 1244 psi = 5533 N


If you do not know how to convert Psi into newtons or vice versa, you can type in numbers here and it will automatically convert it for you:
Convert newtons to pounds - Conversion of Measurement Units




And just because the tigers fangs are longer doesn’t mean it bites harder, smilodons fangs were double the size of tigers, and still smilodon bit 33% weaker than a lion:
Carnivoran Evolution

low as 1/3rd that of a lion:
North American Predators



One thing is for sure, the asiatic lion had a much bigger skull than the bengal in the past:

SKULL SIZE COMPAISON

Russian Biologist Vladimir Georgievich Heptner:

At the same time the largest skulls of lion are only slightly bigger than the largest skulls of tiger.
Mammals of the Soviet Union, Volume 2 Part 2 Carnivora (Hyenas and Cats)

Tiger No. 2 were exactly the same length of carcase, but the skull of the lion is the bigger.
Journal of the Bombay Natural History Society

Alfred Pease:
Sir Alfred Pease, 2nd Baronet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The lion's skull is on the average longer than the tiger's, but the skulls in average -breadth are about equal.
The Book of the Lion

Head of the smithsonian Biologist John seidensticker:

it has been suggested that the tiger may have a proportionally smaller head than the lion.
Tigers of the World


The tigers fangs cant take as much pressure as the lions:

Even the highest psi you listed for a lion (which is over 2x the average) is still lower than a gorillas bite strength.

And a gorillas greatest strength is not their incredible bite strength, it's the hands.

Those forearms are not for show. A gorilla would break a lions skull with his hands

 

[MidniteJay]

All that fukking power

Take away crafted weapons, humans ain't shyt

 

[Sword]

Lions aint ready for this breh.

They got no hands

The got that Rhonda Rouesy head movement

The bytchmade

The first two are from everland, the head keeper there said the lions dominated everland for 10 years...and the last one is from the clyde beatty film:

{1933}



The Bigcage fight, 5 different news sources report the tiger died after
the hose was spraying. 3 male tigers died in the making of the scene.
Note the image on the lower right shows a lion with a death grip on a tiger.

3 tigers died, in the the big cage movie from a lion which was made in 1933.

http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws....70d5e4a2_r.jpg

1st fight, Sultan the lion kills a wild tiger named Tommy:


The first fight in the Bigcage actually gave the advantage to the tiger. Beatty allowed for the tiger to jump the lion by surprise.The lion did not see the tiger, it was focused on attacking Beatty instead.The tiger chosen, was untamed, wild, it had never been in the cage with a lion nor in Beatty's act. The untamed tiger was chosen on purpose so that a good fight would ensue for the film.

Most of the movie stars watching the first fight, bet on the tiger. But, Beatty noted the tiger always commits itself hanging on first where ever it can grab hold. The lion appears to not commit itself to the hold first, but only commits itself if its able to bite a vital area.

Here is the full link and article to this account.

12 Jan 1934 - The BIG CAGE THE ADVENTURES OF CLYDE BEATTY AS R...


2nd Fight, Caesar the lion, kills Bobby the tiger.

This is Caesar the lion below, he has a belly mane, not the same lion we see which
is shown in the 3rd fight. The tiger on the right is Bobby, which Caesar killed, again
this fight is not shown on film.

clyde beatty bobby throat caesar - Google Search

The 3rd fight, is the fight we see on film. After the hose was spraying, the lion killed the male tiger.
Several news sources below report this, the tiger was bitten through the kidney.
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k625/Leofwin/lionkillstigerinbigcagefight-1.jpg
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k625/Leofwin/lionkillstigerinbigcagefight-1.jpg

Photo by Leofwin






Saturday May 27, 1933, Santa Cruz News, page 3.

More evidence the 3rd male tiger was killed after the hose was spraying. Under the
column "observations" and title "bits about film here and coming." The article says the
studio reported the tiger was killed after the hose was spraying. Which is not shown on film.

http://fultonhistory.com/Newspapers 21/Buffalo NY Courier Express/Buffalo NY Courier Express 1933/Buffalo NY Courier Express 1933 - 4205.pdf

whos clyde beatty? Only this guy:








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Clyde Beatty is not only an entertainer, he is also a scientist, a competent zoologist,
an explorer and an adventurer. Braving African, Indian and Malayan jungles; braving
fever, disease and even death, the animal trainer, — along with scientist and explorers en-
gaged in research, — helps to broaden science frontiers in the 'dark lands". When not
employed with the cracking whip and the protective chair, he ventures forth to faraway
lands, searching for young beasts to supply the wire "prison", and searching for other
animals to be sent to zoos and museums.
Full text of "Selwyn House School Yearbook 1948"