2013 New Orleans Saints Offseason Thread

[Easy-E]

I ignored the draft thinkin' our 1st pick got took'd

 

[SubZeroDegrees]

I don't like that pick

I like this. Roman is cool but he's a liability in coverage. Dude in SR says it best.

Ok well first lets explain the type of player Kenny Vaccaro is, he is a very athletic/smart safety. He is a combo safety but his best fit in the NFL is at Strong Safety. Why? Because his best attributes are man coverage and change of direction skills, ur free safety is almost never in man coverage unless its an all out blitz. He had one of the best 20 yard shuttles in the combine, which is a drill to determine a players change of direction ability. I dont like him at Free Safety because he is very aggressive and tends to leave his zone and go for the big play, not what u want at FS. He also has good size at 6"1 218. An awesome 38" vertical and can lay the wood. Also has great body movement and control.

So why he fits the Saints scheme. Roman Harper was so good with Greg Williams because he was allowed to do what he does best, be in the box and blitz. With Rob Ryan the defense is totally different, he doesn't call for his SS to blitz, but to play man up coverage on tight ends or slot WR's.

Why does Rob Ryan do this? Because of his scheme: - Cover 1 Press

Rob Ryan runs a Cover 1 Press about 75% of the time. What is this exactly? Its simple. In this scheme all of ur corner backs will be in man coverage and press(jam) their wide receivers at the line of scrimmage. The Cover 1 means there is only ONE safety playing in a deep zone, everyone else is manned up or blitzing. In this scheme with the 3-4 defense u are sending an extra blitzer in place of your second guy who would be covering the other deep zone. Therefor Rob Ryan will blitz all 3 defensive lineman, and BOTH OLB's. You need good press corners to do this and a VERY good SS at man coverage with a good vertical to compete with tight ends.

Roman Harper is the worst possible fit for a Rob Ryan defense, he isnt a bad player, but in this scheme, u need a lockdown man coverage SS. Great Pick by us!

-One other thing, Vaccaro is supposed to be excellent at stopping the Quarterback option because of his instincts, read and react skills, and change of direction agility skills. We will need this vs cam newton, colin kap and russel wilson.

Roman fits best where he could play in the box blitzing or run stopping, not coverage. We need better covers. I cringe the multiple time Malc late on covering a deep route. I think Vaccaro will help our everlasting problem covering TE's.

 

[cfountain]

man...so many years of non-impact defensive players hopefully this guy starts a positive trend.

there is gonna be some growing pains with this defense tho. you already know

 

[Numpsay]

As bad as our secondary is, not sure why you can hate this pick. Star was gone. Floyd was risky. Anyone else would have been a reach. I know people don't like taking safeties this high but Vacarro is a safety/nickel corner who is also great a run support. Dude is a jack of all trades and get one of Jenkins/Harper(hopefully) off the field which is a net positive in itself. We got a dude that can lock down the slot position, cover TE's and tackle. Check his game tape against Swope, and Austin.

 

[Lee_Land]

I really wanted Jarvis Jones but them I remembered this...

And this...

Oh yeah this one too..

Not to mention all the times Tony G has killed him but that would be jus

 

[PortCityProphet]

I just don't like taking safeties that high. Would have rather had a pass rusher and had my hopes set on one. Pass D starts upfront. We got no push from the front 7.

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

I really wanted Jarvis Jones but them I remembered this...

And this...

Oh yeah this one too..

Not to mention all the times Tony G has killed him but that would be jus

Exactly! ER can't stop tight ends, epically Tony G. This is was very good pick

 

[cfountain]

*has youtube open*

i bet its gonna be from left field

 

[cfountain]

we needed a tackle

hopefully he pans out

 

[cfountain]

and now Johnathon Jenkins

and we traded Chris Ivory

 

[Blackgate]

and now Johnathon Jenkins

and we traded Chris Ivory

i hate it had to be chris but if john jenkins can improve the saints d i can live with it...

 

[cfountain]

I like what I see of Jenkins and Armstead could possibly start

dude is a beast

 

[Lee_Land]

Still need a pass rushing OLB, listening to the draft on 870 always has me

 

[Numpsay]

We have enough LBs. They haven't drafted one because it isn't a neecessity or a need. Secondary help abs DT help was MUCH more important. I like the Jenkins pick. I know the 9ers were going he fell to their next pick.

 

[cfountain]

I like the Stills pick.

Hopefully he and Toon get a shot.