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Every GM will miss on picks, but people try to go at Belichick without adding any context, and most people are beyond disingenuous in their arguments, or just clueless. Not talking about you as you're posting a tweet, but hindsight is 20/20. The Patriots pick at the end of the first round EVERY year. They are often looking to just fill in holes on the team with players that can play multiple positions and line-up multiple places. You're not always going for a home-run at that point in the draft. Let's go year by year there, and we will post the draft pick and the five players drafted BEFORE and AFTER the Patriots pick.

2014: Easley was a boom or bust with his injury, and the Patriots went for it.

-Marcus Smith, Deonne Buccanon, and Kelvin Benjamin drafted before.
-Jimmy Ward, Bradley Roby, and Teddy Bridgewater drafted after. Take out Bridgewater as the Patriots weren't drafting a QB, and the next pick was Xavier Su-a-Filo.


2015: Malcom Brown

-Philip Dorsett, Laken Tomlinson, and Damarious Randall drafted before.
-Landon Collin, Donovan Smith, and Mario Edwards Jr. (Two very good players there, but the Patriots didn't need a safety then)

2016: Stolen pick

2017: Traded for Cooks

2018: Sony Michel (I think he's been more than fine, as you can't control the injuries he's had. He was important in their Rams Super Bowl victory season)

-Terrell Edmunds, Taven Bryan, and Mike Hughes drafted before.
-Lamar, Austin Corbett, and Will Hernandez drafted after. Nick Chubb was the next HB drafted though, and if we remove Lamar, he'd be in the next three.

2019: N'Keal Harry (Tried to get Brady a jump ball weapon, and he has not worked out well)
-L.J. Collier, Deandre Baker, and Kaleb McGary drafted before.
-Byron Murphy, Rock Ya-Sin, and Jawaan Taylor drafted after.



People can cherry pick and manipulate statistics and whatever all they want, but his drafts have not been as bad as people like to claim.
 

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Every GM will miss on picks, but people try to go at Belichick without adding any context, and most people are beyond disingenuous in their arguments, or just clueless. Not talking about you as you're posting a tweet, but hindsight is 20/20. The Patriots pick at the end of the first round EVERY year. They are often looking to just fill in holes on the team with players that can play multiple positions and line-up multiple places. You're not always going for a home-run at that point in the draft. Let's go year by year there, and we will post the draft pick and the five players drafted BEFORE and AFTER the Patriots pick.

2014: Easley was a boom or bust with his injury, and the Patriots went for it.

-Marcus Smith, Deonne Buccanon, and Kelvin Benjamin drafted before.
-Jimmy Ward, Bradley Roby, and Teddy Bridgewater drafted after. Take out Bridgewater as the Patriots weren't drafting a QB, and the next pick was Xavier Su-a-Filo.


2015: Malcom Brown

-Philip Dorsett, Laken Tomlinson, and Damarious Randall drafted before.
-Landon Collin, Donovan Smith, and Mario Edwards Jr. (Two very good players there, but the Patriots didn't need a safety then)

2016: Stolen pick

2017: Traded for Cooks

2018: Sony Michel (I think he's been more than fine, as you can't control the injuries he's had. He was important in their Rams Super Bowl victory season)

-Terrell Edmunds, Taven Bryan, and Mike Hughes drafted before.
-Lamar, Austin Corbett, and Will Hernandez drafted after. Nick Chubb was the next HB drafted though, and if we remove Lamar, he'd be in the next three.

2019: N'Keal Harry (Tried to get Brady a jump ball weapon, and he has not worked out well)
-L.J. Collier, Deandre Baker, and Kaleb McGary drafted before.
-Byron Murphy, Rock Ya-Sin, and Jawaan Taylor drafted after.



People can cherry pick and manipulate statistics and whatever all they want, but his drafts have not been as bad as people like to claim.
The difference is we're talking about a coach who's widely considered the greatest of all time who just parted ways with a QB who's considered the GOAT.
There's always been a debate about who's responsible for who and it's only gonna get louder after last season. It's the nature of the business
 

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Every GM will miss on picks, but people try to go at Belichick without adding any context, and most people are beyond disingenuous in their arguments, or just clueless. Not talking about you as you're posting a tweet, but hindsight is 20/20. The Patriots pick at the end of the first round EVERY year. They are often looking to just fill in holes on the team with players that can play multiple positions and line-up multiple places. You're not always going for a home-run at that point in the draft. Let's go year by year there, and we will post the draft pick and the five players drafted BEFORE and AFTER the Patriots pick.

2014: Easley was a boom or bust with his injury, and the Patriots went for it.

-Marcus Smith, Deonne Buccanon, and Kelvin Benjamin drafted before.
-Jimmy Ward, Bradley Roby, and Teddy Bridgewater drafted after. Take out Bridgewater as the Patriots weren't drafting a QB, and the next pick was Xavier Su-a-Filo.


2015: Malcom Brown

-Philip Dorsett, Laken Tomlinson, and Damarious Randall drafted before.
-Landon Collin, Donovan Smith, and Mario Edwards Jr. (Two very good players there, but the Patriots didn't need a safety then)

2016: Stolen pick

2017: Traded for Cooks

2018: Sony Michel (I think he's been more than fine, as you can't control the injuries he's had. He was important in their Rams Super Bowl victory season)

-Terrell Edmunds, Taven Bryan, and Mike Hughes drafted before.
-Lamar, Austin Corbett, and Will Hernandez drafted after. Nick Chubb was the next HB drafted though, and if we remove Lamar, he'd be in the next three.

2019: N'Keal Harry (Tried to get Brady a jump ball weapon, and he has not worked out well)
-L.J. Collier, Deandre Baker, and Kaleb McGary drafted before.
-Byron Murphy, Rock Ya-Sin, and Jawaan Taylor drafted after.



People can cherry pick and manipulate statistics and whatever all they want, but his drafts have not been as bad as people like to claim.

it’s no doubt there are misses, and some makes, but i think people are tired of the smart guy in the room moniker, and oh he got this dude from east west state tech who’s a wr because he caught some jump balls, i know it’s not always the case but we have seen it, truth be told it’s all a dice shoot, but he has passed on talent for the rando guy, again not saying always but it has happened
 

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it’s no doubt there are misses, and some makes, but i think people are tired of the smart guy in the room moniker, and oh he got this dude from east west state tech who’s a wr because he caught some jump balls, i know it’s not always the case but we have seen it, truth be told it’s all a dice shoot, but he has passed on talent for the rando guy, again not saying always but it has happened


I see what you're saying, but that's the media and fans coming up with that "Oh, he is going to turn this D3 player into an all-pro" crap.

I hope that wasn't too long for @South Paw to read. He won't have to read much this year. He'll just have to read "L" about ten times this year.:yeshrug:.
 

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I see what you're saying, but that's the media and fans coming up with that "Oh, he is going to turn this D3 player into an all-pro" crap.

I hope that wasn't too long for @South Paw to read. He won't have to read much this year. He'll just have to read "L" about ten times this year.:yeshrug:.
I didn't turn into a Pats fan over the off-season I'll be alright.

Did future HOF N'Keal Harry get his trade request honored yet?
 

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Billy B handed out over $50m in guaranteed money to TEs in free agency one year after drafting two of them in the 3rd round. That's as blunt as he can be about acknowledging his flaws, he's been terrible at scouting skill position talent for years.
 

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I didn't turn into a Pats fan over the off-season I'll be alright.

Did future HOF N'Keal Harry get his trade request honored yet?

Don't worry about Harry. You should be more concerned with whether or not Wilson will actually show up and perform for more than half a season.:ufdup:.
 
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