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the Democrats trying to juelz this "phenomenon" away need to stop playing stupid. the contrast is bad, because trump is the exact same obnoxious moron he's been for the past 8 years. everyone is used to him; his behavior and idiocy is totally factored in at this point

the reason biden is a shock, is that his awful debate performance came out of nowhere, because they've been hiding his real condition. we had no idea he was in the condition he's in. that's the difference. so trump ranting about sharks is not gonna undo what everyone saw at the debate
 

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Those aren't the facts at all.... Biden can't do anything to combat a 6-3 majority in the Supreme Court whom have made it clear they are making up their own rules.
I said 4 distinct things in my post:

1. Joe Biden campaigned in 2020 pledging that he will make Roe the law of the land if elected (source: Biden pledged to make Roe v. Wade "the law of the land." Abortion-rights supporters want more.)

2. The 2020 election resulted in Joe Biden being elected, and the Democrats in control of the House and Senate (Source: 2020 United States elections - Wikipedia)

3. Joe Biden and the Democrats sat idly by with trifecta legislative control while the courts overturned Roe without taking the necessary steps to protect abortion rights (Source: There Is Only One Way for Biden to Fulfill His Promise to “Restore Roe”)

4. Joe Biden and the Democrats are now yet again saying they must be voted in to protect Roe without committing to doing those necessary actions (Source: x.com)

Please provide sourced evidence that all or any of these are not facts. If you're saying there is nothing Biden can do to combat a 6-3 majority in the Supreme Court then he cannot credibly, legitimately use it as an election issue because the horse has already bolted.
 

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if it's Kamala, they need to find a home run VP. i'd rather run Kamala with a mark-cuban type of celebrity, than some low-level dem from the midwest that no one gives a fukk about

because honestly, what rising star star do the Democrats have, who's even gonna be willing to run as Kamala's VP? absolutely no one :dead:so why run her with Congressman dikkhead from Wisconsin? they need someone who's gonna make headlines
Disagree with this. Kamala could win with Shapiro (PA) or J.B Pritzker (Illinois) as her V.P
 

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Who do you think should be the nominee then?
It has to be Biden by default. If Harris is passed over by the nomination, black women will walk the fukk out the DNC convention. It won't be a pretty sight. The chosen candidate would lose due to not having party unity due to all the fighting, anger and hurt feelings. You also have the problem of not having the financial treasure chest and having to start a rushed campaign from scratch with no real preparation.
 

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Disagree with this. Kamala could win with Shapiro (PA) or J.B Pritzker (Illinois) as her V.P
there's no universe where a rising star like shapiro or wes moore runs as kamala's vp, which only leaves useless schmucks. tim kaine types :flabbynsick:

maybe beshear would be a good VP for kamala, since he has zero future in kentucky. they aren't making him a senator. actually, now that i think about it, he might be her best realistic VP in the party
 

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Ppl hate our current options. Kamala would be like the avg chick that walks in a room of ugly chicks. She would be the baddie by default.


Biden is the old single chick that was decent in HS but is way past her prime.

Trump is the fat obnoxious chick that keeps getting dikk somehow, even tho everyone claims they dont fukk with her.

You start weighing your options, get a couple drinks in you, she talking right, you prolly upgrade her from a 6 to an 8 :ehh:
 

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Enough of this Kamala Harris nominee talk. It does not matter if she has the perfect VP running mate. She cannot win a national election in 2024 or 2028. White America will not for her. There are some white people that would vote for Biden, but not Harris. She also would have problems with black men.

The democrats that are propping her up as a potential nominee are dumb idiots for not knowing this.
What you're proposing is that there exists a significant section of voters who would support a vegetative Joe Biden fighting with half his own Democratic caucus over a Kamala Harris with the full support and backing of the entire Democratic caucus and the co-sign of figures like Obama, and I just don't believe that at all. What is the driving motivation for these voters? If you're that explicitly bigoted that Kamala Harris being a woman or black is a red line for you, why would you be voting for woke Biden over anti-DEI Trump in the first place? Explain this hypothetical voter's mindset.
 

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I said 4 distinct things in my post:

1. Joe Biden campaigned in 2020 pledging that he will make Roe the law of the land if elected (source: Biden pledged to make Roe v. Wade "the law of the land." Abortion-rights supporters want more.)

2. The 2020 election resulted in Joe Biden being elected, and the Democrats in control of the House and Senate (Source: 2020 United States elections - Wikipedia)

3. Joe Biden and the Democrats sat idly by with trifecta legislative control while the courts overturned Roe without taking the necessary steps to protect abortion rights (Source: There Is Only One Way for Biden to Fulfill His Promise to “Restore Roe”)

4. Joe Biden and the Democrats are now yet again saying they must be voted in to protect Roe without committing to doing those necessary actions (Source: x.com)

Please provide sourced evidence that all or any of these are not facts. If you're saying there is nothing Biden can do to combat a 6-3 majority in the Supreme Court then he cannot credibly, legitimately use it as an election issue because the horse has already bolted.
maybe leaving Roe up to the states actually helps the democrats :patrice:

think about it. any purple area is constantly under threat of republican rule making abortion illegal now, right? so to have that constantly looming threat from republicans...is kind of a good thing, no?
 

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there's no universe where a rising star like shapiro or wes moore runs as kamala's vp, which only leaves useless schmucks. tim kaine types :flabbynsick:

maybe beshear would be a good VP for kamala, since he has zero future in kentucky. they aren't making him a senator. actually, now that i think about it, he might be her best realistic VP in the party
Harris/Beshear is the ticket. Time to put down that mangy old dog Biden and move forward.
 

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maybe leaving Roe up to the states actually helps the democrats :patrice:

think about it. any purple area is constantly under threat of republican rule making abortion illegal now, right? so to have that constantly looming threat from republicans...is kind of a good thing, no?
I think it has unequivocally helped the Democrats from a political/campaigning perspective but it has been a complete disgrace and calamity from a moral perspective for the country.
 
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