20th anniversary of Nellyville

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This is probably your best post or one of the best.

When it came to ATL, Ludacris went and mastered every style and flavor that came out of ATL. You wanted that Kast/Organized Noize style, Luda provided "Saturday", which was one of his bigger songs. He came through on Crunk, Crunk n B, Bass. You name it, he did it. Even venturing outside of those style, Luda could drop a crossover record without losing credibility.

Then there was TRAP. He was never able to get on that level and Trap became THE sound. His comical, animated style didn't fit with the more street style of trap and its how T.I. and Jeezy were able to become bigger than Luda commercially and how the legacies of Gucci, T.I., and Jeezy are bigger than Luda's.

Couldn't have said it better myself. People always looked at me funny when I said Luda was basically what Eminem could never be.
 

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I remember being in high school everybody dissing Country Grammer but I thought that shyt was dope
Country Grammar a bona-fide classic. Nellyville is not but a very good pop-rap album.

Dilemma was everywhere. Beat is flames.
 

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I always find it fascinating how one can sell so many records to being borderline irrelevant. How so many people leave in mass at the same time baffles me
Cause Nelly was a singles artist who's peak was in the Renaissance Era for CD sales(late 90's to early 2000's).

Flo-Rida would've sold just as much if not more if he debuted in the same era.

That's no knock on Nelly either but singles contributed to tons of album sales back then. Britney Spears went Diamond twice off the strength of a couple of catchy singles per album.

Nobody really vouched for Nelly as a rapper or artist though. He was just a dude with catchy singles you could play in different settings and it's mainly his first 2 albums that did the trick before his sound got stale during the G Unit and Kanye era of the mid 2000's.
 

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Cause Nelly was a singles artist who's peak was in the Renaissance Era for CD sales(late 90's to early 2000's).

Flo-Rida would've sold just as much if not more if he debuted in the same era.

That's no knock on Nelly either but singles contributed to tons of album sales back then. Britney Spears went Diamond twice off the strength of a couple of catchy singles per album.

Nobody really vouched for Nelly as a rapper or artist though. He was just a dude with catchy singles you could play in different settings and it's mainly his first 2 albums that did the trick before his sound got stale during the G Unit and Kanye era of the mid 2000's.
But Nelly don’t have no huge selling singles though. I’m talking 5x and up. People loved his albums
 

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But Nelly don’t have no huge selling singles though. I’m talking 5x and up. People loved his albums
Singles back then didn't sell much digital copies because Itunes wasn't around but his singles charted high and were played all over MTV, TLR, BET, VH1, etc.

He was one of the few rappers besides Ja Rule who was getting heavy play on pop radio.
 

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Singles back then didn't sell much digital copies because Itunes wasn't around but his singles charted high and were played all over MTV, TLR, BET, VH1, etc.

He was one of the few rappers besides Ja Rule who was getting heavy play on pop radio.

Singles artists don't sell millions of copies of multiple albums.
 

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^people never talked about Nelly albums other than his first one. He was a singles driven artist and back then, singles legitimately drove albums.
 

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I always find it fascinating how one can sell so many records to being borderline irrelevant. How so many people leave in mass at the same time baffles me
Nelly never had Stans. Just a lot of catchy songs and appealed to women n
^people never talked about Nelly albums other than his first one. He was a singles driven artist and back then, singles legitimately drove albums.
This is a bad album with huge singles

Country grammar is his only good album
 

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Singles artists don't sell millions of copies of multiple albums.
It kind of depends.

The thing is: Even though Black people f*cked with Nelly, he was the 2nd most marketable rapper after Eminem in that 2000-2002 era. He was a pretty boy ( :dame: ) who had a relatively safe image and made catchy tunes that a lot of women enjoyed and his music got heavy spins on pop/country stations and on MTV/TLR.

The millions of albums Nelly sold were mainly from the MTV/TLR White audience who saw him as a "safe" rapper to listen to and pop fans definitely drove tons of album sales off the strength of a few catchy singles.

It happened with many other artists who were popular with the early 2000's MTV/TLR audience. They would buy albums solely off of lead singles and radio hits. Even though Black folks played his music at functions/parties, that was the audience that Nelly appealed to for many of his album sales. And he extended that to the Country audience with Over and Over.
Nelly never had Stans. Just a lot of catchy songs and appealed to women n

This is a bad album with huge singles

Country grammar is his only good album
Exactly.

Even Ja Rule had some stans back then who vouched for him as a rapper and disliked 50 Cent.

I straight up never heard of Nelly actually having people vouch for him as a rapper or artist and I've been posting on rap forums for a looong time.

Country Grammar was a good project but was not touted up as a classic hip hop album.

Nelly had good singles for his first 2 albums that appealed to both the streets and the suburbs and that's how he got so popular. After Nellyville, he became a caricature of himself and hip hop moved past him. Even Luda stayed relevant in hip hop for more than 2 album cycles.
 

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I think cormega second album was released on the same day. That's what me and 2 other fellas in line was buying at the record store. 20 yr old me could've cared less about this pop shyt, and to hell with him after he dissed KRS One :pacspit:
 
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