25-year old pregnant mother of five gunned down while driving in Chicago

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If you read the article you would know that none of what you proposed was true
yeah, what exactly did i proposed? what I did was suggest that she was possibly not out there for any nefarious reason and definitely was not doing anything that warrants anyone casting spurious insinuations of guilt or ignominy on her part. and frankly unless she had a gun in her hand and was shooting at someone who shot her or was attacking someone who shot her or trying to run someone over with her car; the time of day, her age, pregnancy or motherhood are completely irrelevant to and do not diminish her victimization, she was killed. You don't lose ANY of your right to life and health or my sympathy because of these things
 
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:camby: Sorry not going to play this game with you, if you see nothing wrong with a single mother of 5 who is also pregnant out at 4am hanging with friends in one of the most dangerous cities in the country then I don't know what to tell you.
I agree with the part in red.
 

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Understand I agree with you, but at the same time just because I am free to go anywhere doesn't mean I'm gonna be walking around Brownsville Brooklyn at 3 am. This is where street smarts kick in. Street smarts tells you "maybe it's not such a good idea roaming violent streets during the most violent months of the year and during the most violent time of day".
I am not going to call her stupid, I am not going to cast doubt on her character, she's dead and she did not deserve it because of anything I have learned thus far.
 

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yeah, what exactly did i proposed? what I did was suggest that she was possibly not out there for any nefarious reason and definitely was not doing anything that warrants anyone casting spurious insinuations of guilt or ignominy on her part. and frankly unless she had a gun in her hand and was shooting at someone who shot her or was attacking someone who shot her or trying to trying someone over with her car, time of day, her age, pregnancy or motherhood are completely irrelevant to and do not diminish her victimization, she was killed. You don't lose ANY of your right to life and health or my sympathy because of these things


Agreed. What I was trying to tell you was that your disingenuous spin was just that. Someone in her vehicle fled the scene and hadn't shown up. She had a vehicle pull up next to her and spray. That sounds like a targeted hit of someone in her car on the way out to a night in the town.

It doesn't sound like she was killed dropping of the father of her children at work. Her choices are no excuse for her to be murdered or for their assailants to go free, but her choices will now impact her children.
 

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that's the vibe I'm getting, hopefully I'm wrong

I would go as far as say that midwest and type believe she deserved to die because she had a social life outside of being with her children 24/7

Is that you think or you in here trolling?
 

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that's the vibe I'm getting, hopefully I'm wrong

I would go as far as say that midwest and type believe she deserved to die because she had a social life outside of being with her children 24/7


I haven't said she deserved to die, of course she didn't. I just brought up the fact that she was a mother of 5 other children at a relatively young age, she was currently pregnant and she was out at 4am in what is thought of as one of the most dangerous cities in the country, a couple of better life choices and this all could have been avoided, those children would have a mother in there life. Personal accountability is all I am trying to bring up.
 

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I haven't said she deserved to die, of course she didn't. I just brought up the fact that she was a mother of 5 other children at a relatively young age, she was currently pregnant and she was out at 4am in what is thought of as one of the most dangerous cities in the country, a couple of better life choices and this all could have been avoided, those children would have a mother in there life. Personal accountability is all I am trying to bring up.

Why are you blaming the victim? What is wrong with you?
 

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Agreed. What I was trying to tell you was that your disingenuous spin was just that.
you gonna have to believe or not blieve m
there is nothing disingenuous about what I say here
I see this in threads
all the time
extra burdens being put on black victims
people are not perfect
so she chose to go out at night
how the hell does this matter the her right to life and safety?

Someone in her vehicle fled the scene and hadn't shown up. She had a vehicle pull up next to her and spray. That sounds like a targeted hit of someone in her car on the way out to a night in the town.

what the hell would any of that have to do with her right to life and safety?
It doesn't sound like she was killed dropping of the father of her children at work. Her choices are no excuse for her to be murdered or for their assailants to go free, but her choices will now impact her children.
and that is all you can say, you have no idea what it sounds like
I don't see why I need to assume anything nefarious about her
I don't know why the guy fled
I don't know why they were out there


and I definitely don't know why I should adopt a posture of giving a shyt about any of that in the face of someone taking a gun and shooting at the car she was driving as it relates to her victimization
Nothing you mention makes her less of a victim of a crime
 
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