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I have no doubt that Pac was a real one, anyone who shoots at the cops is no fraud, but was he really instilling the same kind of fear as Suge? I've heard the Vanilla Ice story, the Eazy E story, and I once read on here that Suge had rape goons on deck ready to fukk anyone who crossed him. :merchant:
With Suge it was a different type of fear but I see what you mean...Pac didn't have nikkaz shook like that but nikkaz were aware...
 

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I'm gonna ignore that nonsense about where crack started but Why are u acting as if there wasnt a crack epidemic in NYC in the mid 80's???

Again, the crack epidemic started in Los Angeles. No need to ignore FACTS, it's already been proven time and time again.

Never said crack didn't hit NYC, it hit LA first and that mixed with the gangs, caused the more violent music.

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The Fat Boys were from gully ass Brownsville but made fun raps.

You know who else did fun raps?? The west coast rappers, Digital Underground...Young MC....Tone Loc and MC Hammer.

Digital Underground had 'Humpty Dance' but also had tons of other songs about sex and mysogony. Don't paint them as some kind of fruity happy go lucky rap group.

Tone Loc's two biggest songs were about fukking and taking drugs. His other music wasn't so 'nice' but you didn't listen to him.

Coolio was talking about crippin in his songs but you probably thought he was sweet.

Hammer and Tone Loc were way more mainstream then NWA and they werent spitting that violent vulgur shyt u talking..



Also....Eazy asked for Cube to lean more towards writting the raps with the cursing isntead of the east coast standard because he thought it stood out.....This is common knowledge. Dr Dre admitted that they were trying to make humrous records like Richard Pryor so that people could laugh. Hence the reason nikkaz4life is filled with humor.


Take your revisionist history somewhere else.

:comeon:

Cube wrote lyrics and songs BEFORE he knew Eazy. Boyz In The Hood was written before that.

It's not revisionist history, you just dont know what you are talking about.
 

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Cube wrote lyrics and songs BEFORE he knew Eazy. Boyz In The Hood was written before that.

It's not revisionist history, you just dont know what you are talking about.


Dude....U are on some revisionist shyt because u never once mentioned The South like I did......Everyone knows that the south and the west in the 80's had to use cursing to compete with The East Coast dominance.

NYC had Deceptacons and Drug kingpins in the 80's and didnt need to use any of that like u claim the west and the south did...thats how I know u on some revisionist BS

NYC was crime ridden as well in the 80's......But it wasnt used in rap music because NYC didnt need a gimmick like cursing on records to stand out.
 

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Dude....U are on some revisionist shyt because u never once mentioned The South like I did......Everyone knows that the south and the west in the 80's had to use cursing to compete with The East Coast dominance.

NYC had Deceptacons and Drug kingpins in the 80's and didnt need to use any of that like u claim the west and the south did...thats how I know u on some revisionist BS

NYC was crime ridden as well in the 80's......But it wasnt used in rap music because NYC didnt need a gimmick like cursing on records to stand out.

What does mentioning the South have to do with revisionist? Their music was influenced by the Westcoast in part.

The Westcoast didn't use 'cursing to compete with the Eastcoast' there was no some 'lets get together to defeat the eastcoast' and talk about it as some kind of concerted effort. Cursing isn't a gimmick, that is how normal people talk. And the music was a reflection of what was going on in the area to those artists. It's not a gimmick because New York artists didn't want to talk about it in the same way. Though it seems like KRS One and Kool G Rap did just fine....but are they gimmicky too?

That's great NYC had gangs, no one said they didn't. No one said NYC was crime free. What I said to you was that the gangs mixed with the crack epidemic, which again 100% for sure blew up in LA thanks to the government, is what fueled the more vulgar lyrics. There wasn't a county wide gang war bubbling up in NYC in 1984.
 

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what does that have to do with anything??

Didnt the UZN help cube when he was getting disrespected in front of his wife??

Shows you what happens when you diss the west coast :boss:
 

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I have no doubt that Pac was a real one, anyone who shoots at the cops is no fraud, but was he really instilling the same kind of fear as Suge? I've heard the Vanilla Ice story, the Eazy E story, and I once read on here that Suge had rape goons on deck ready to fukk anyone who crossed him. :merchant:
:dead:
 

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Dude....U are on some revisionist shyt because u never once mentioned The South like I did......Everyone knows that the south and the west in the 80's had to use cursing to compete with The East Coast dominance.

NYC had Deceptacons and Drug kingpins in the 80's and didnt need to use any of that like u claim the west and the south did...thats how I know u on some revisionist BS

NYC was crime ridden as well in the 80's......But it wasnt used in rap music because NYC didnt need a gimmick like cursing on records to stand out.
:laff::laff::laff:......who the fukk is this clown????.....
 

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Dude....U are on some revisionist shyt because u never once mentioned The South like I did......Everyone knows that the south and the west in the 80's had to use cursing to compete with The East Coast dominance.

NYC had Deceptacons and Drug kingpins in the 80's and didnt need to use any of that like u claim the west and the south did...thats how I know u on some revisionist BS

NYC was crime ridden as well in the 80's......But it wasnt used in rap music because NYC didnt need a gimmick like cursing on records to stand out.
If it wasn't for the west and south hip hop would've died out a long time ago
 
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