2Pac's Biographer: “He wasn’t tough,” “He couldn’t fight”, “didn’t know how to shoot a gun.”

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I mean to be fair he missed both police officers, but the truth is most people are terrible shots in life-and-death or high pressure situations.
What are you talking about? One was hit in the leg and abdomen and the other in his ass, why do yawl do this?

'Pac never got shot at Quad, he had small bullet sized entry wounds on his torso from being pistol whipped"

Riiiiiggghhhhhtttt.
 

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Anybody who truly has followed Pac throughout his lifetime knows he was never a street/hood dude or whatever, most of them disregard his pro-Black/Black consciousness period. Rather, a studio gangster, not as bad as others of his time, but to a certain degree, he was a studio G.

He got a pass due to his charismatic personality and the fact that he was a layered individual who showed intellectual greatness at times compared to other artists:yeshrug:.

Pac is one of my favorite rappers, but a lot of his stans try to paint him as some super thugged-out gangsta when it's the complete opposite. I remember reading a critic in '96 who reviewed his All Eyes On Me album at its release and stated how Pac became a cardboard cutout of a thug.
Never heard a Pac fan say he was a super gangster, never heard Pac say he was either, heard him clarify several times in interviews that he wasn't and seen him clarify his definition of THUG so ppl didn't think it meant gangster or criminal.

Not sure why you're bushed but hopefully you use this downtime to grow as a person. Peace and blessings.
 

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I really wish I loved my favorite rapper as much as y'all loved Tupac.
Yeah that's tough if your GOAT is an obese closet homosexual or a tuna bagle eating groomer or a whiskered up rat who compared to Beans is wack...definitely glad my GOAT is Pac
 

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Anybody calling Pac a Studio Gangsta is pretty stupid

That Milwaukee Story (that MC Eiht confirms) let's you know that he really wasn't afraid of shyt
And Eiht never really misses an opportunity to be critical of Pac so if him and Spice 1 (who never misses an opportunity to sing Pacs praises) both have the same exact story then what does that tell you??
 

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That was Thug Angel … did any of those guys even know him? :pachaha:

That documentary was filmed on a home video camera, had a cover that sold because it was stylized like R U Still Down

One of the first documentaries right after his death

Any of those guys still around … why hasn’t Art of Dialogue got in touch :mjlol:
Is that the one with the dudes from Marin? Where they say they feel like Pac getting shot in Quad was karma? I think Thug Angel was the one with the shooting range clips (from Blackwatch footage) and then Thug Immortal is the cover that's similar to the Rolling Stone cover after Pac death.
 

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I mean people have always said this about him. He was a showbiz kid, started as a dancer and actor and embraced the role of gangsta rapper.

I'm sure at least in the last few years he knew how to fight and use a gun. Basically getting involved in that street shyt put him in that high risk position. He would have been better off just being a studio gangster.
Showbiz kid?? Yeah, Pac was the quintessential Hollywood nepo baby.
 

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Right! Everything is so black and white with these guys. As if humans are one dimensional and not complex beings. A lot of the guys on here sound like white folks or suburban dudes who learn about the “hood” from hearsay or Vlad interviews. Idk. They have these negative stereotypes of people from the ghetto being ignorant brutes or something so they question dudes like Pac who are intelligent, multifaceted, who defy those negative imagery. So, dudes like him have to be fake, studio gangsters, etc.
It wasn't until I got online in my older years that I found people have wildly different definitions of those words than me. The internet puts people in rooms and conversations they'd never be in outside in the real world. Being "ghetto" does not equate to being ignorant. Being from the "hood" does not equate to being violent.
 

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Neverland…the kids control the cool here, that’s why everything is so stupid, 😆
This is unfortunately true, and the internet pushes the stupidity into overdrive, I dont want to drag Charlie Kirk stuff over to the booth so I'll make this point short - everyone is trying to rush to prove the shooter was radicalized by the left or radicalized by the right in figuring out the motive but as more and more info rolls in it becomes apparent the shooter was radicalized and motivated by skibbidy-toilet brainrot culture, Kirk was murdered for the meme lol smh, societal stupidity amongst the youth is at an all time high.
, kids are idiots. Pac is arguably the greatest rap artist in history, why do we even care if he was or wasn’t tough? 🤮. We want to ID with or be fascinated by someone’s lifestyle before we even like them as musicians, what is this? Lol, is this musicianship or lifestyle selling? Nas done rapped about being a roach, a prison cell, a gun, a woman, a fetus and some more shhit…it’s artistry!! Who gives a fukk that he’s not really a roach!!!
And Pac was no different than Nas in regards to his artistry, he said it himself, sometimes the music is autobiographical, sometimes allegorical, sometimes 1st, sometimes 3rd person perspective, he rapped from the perspective of a gun as well, a woman, a young girl, an old man, a Christian, a Muslim, an agnostic, musically he was as varied as his personal interests.
Dudes need fathers bro…like the old school dads who looked and carried themselves like they was 57 when they was 32…no 2nd childhood dads like these cats today. This whole shhit twisted, perpetual childishness, Neverland.
Yeah, it's sad and troubling.

And we have to stop being so hyper critical of someone who died at 25 while we're viewing them from a 40 or older lens, its disingenuous, and it implies those critical of him didn't have a million stuttersteps and learning moments in their early 20s.
 

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Always a dirty mangey cac trying to slander the goat. Didn’t a few years ago a white bytch that was interviewing say that he tried to sexually assault her?
Who said that? Let me find out it was that dry haired redhead who was giddy af to interview him (pale MTV host) in Santa Monica on the boardwalk?
 

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As I said before, the only Tupac book I respect is the Vibe interviews which I finally bought new.

It was unavailable for months. Conspiracy to make way for this one?

I don't like what this guy said.

He's a sportswriter and sports have nothing to do with art. Or are at least far from art.

Chuck D gave this guys book props.

I only like the Vibe interviews cause it's Tupac's words. And amazing journalists. So good Pac kept requesting the one guy.
 

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Showbiz kid?? Yeah, Pac was the quintessential Hollywood nepo baby.

I guess thats the wrong term, I meant he was a performing arts kid.

Which a lot of rappers are, but he was actually becoming a successful actor from his early roles. He would be a huge movie star if he was still here today, and I assume his rap career would be low on the agenda.
 

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Pac wasn’t an “art school” guy. He literally went to art school as a poor program and it was for less than 2 years of his life. U cats are weird af. Pac brought himself to Bishop. Not the other way around. And this is something the director of the fukking movie even said. And everybody who knew him during and prior to that film being made has said the same shyt. The only people who say otherwise is cats who met him AFTER he made Juice.
Word, he wasn't exactly doing Black Swan on the lawn in Pen Lucy. People might want to educate themselves on the neighborhood he lived in in Baltimore before saying how privileged his Baltimore time was.
 

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Is that the one with the dudes from Marin? Where they say they feel like Pac getting shot in Quad was karma? I think Thug Angel was the one with the shooting range clips (from Blackwatch footage) and then Thug Immortal is the cover that's similar to the Rolling Stone cover after Pac death.
Ya got the names mixed up
 

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Jeff Pearlman is one of the great sports biographers, but I'm not sure he should've done a Tupac one. I'll get to this book one of these days, because I'm sure he did a great deal of research and interviews.
 

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I guess thats the wrong term, I meant he was a performing arts kid.

Which a lot of rappers are, but he was actually becoming a successful actor from his early roles. He would be a huge movie star if he was still here today, and I assume his rap career would be low on the agenda.
As @spliz already pointed out he was only at the school for performing arts for not even 2 full school years, he spent more time than that selling little petty drugs in the Bay, I wouldn't describe Pac as a former drug dealer either, just cause you do something for a couple years doesn't mean it defines who you are as a person. Pac used art as an outlet and he immersed himself in the art forms of music, acting, poetry, dance etc but, when people call him a "theater kid" its to be dismissive of other aspects of what comprised him as a person. Like every other human on Earth Pac was a multi faceted, complex, contradiction riddled person, the big difference is theres public documentation through most of his life so it allows people to cite all his errors where you and I can enjoy a greater level of anonymity and our shortfalls, or at least the bulk of them, throughout our lives get to remain mostly private
 
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