Believe whatever you want then.
I'm a woman who's actually been to pp and it damn sure wasn't for an abortion.
Numerous people either don't have or can't afford a regular obgyn.
Every city/states social services aren't created equal.
But you got it.
3 Dead (1 cop, 2 other) 11 total shot, Shooter in Colorado, Confirmed Cac With AK, 4 officers shot
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Believe whatever you want then.
I'm a woman who's actually been to pp and it damn sure wasn't for an abortion.
Numerous people either don't have or can't afford a regular obgyn.
Every city/states social services aren't created equal.
But you got it.
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Believe whatever you want then.
I'm a woman who's actually been to pp and it damn sure wasn't for an abortion.
Numerous people either don't have or can't afford a regular obgyn.
Every city/states social services aren't created equal.
But you got it.
you didn't go to DSS?!
What state are you in?!
Y'all don't have a county funded public health center?!
you didn't go to DSS?!
What state are you in?!
Y'all don't have a county funded public health center?!
I am from Ct then just lived in VA for the past 13 or so years.
From state to state and city to city the services provided as well as the qualifications and availability differ.
For instance you could get a screening app for preg/ std through social services in Norfolk but would wait at least a month for an app and it would only be 2 days a week during certain hours. Harder on the working poor. No evening or weekend appts. No emergency appts. Etc
Remember the war on the poor in this country. The powers that be don't want to fund these programs these days. People should just pray more if you ask them.
Planned Parenthood there doesn't do abortions, there's private facilities that do.
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Dude trying hard as F to do the "look at my psycho bulging eyes"I am not sure who that person you guys keep posting but this is what the shooter looks like.
Planned Parenthood Shooter Identified as 57-Year-Old Robert Lewis Dear
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Did napolean and cac mamba go as hard like the do in the muslim threads? just checking
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I hear you. appreciate you reemphasizing how different states are different. I dunno how Colorado is. .. but there are so many other options for women in the Carolinas. you don't have to go to a freestanding clinic for pills or PP counseling. the county provides that for you free of charge.
You know what just dawned on me yall?
Never mind they won't call this fukker a terrorist or thug-wrong complexion for that
They not even calling him a cop killer
Where's all the police unions now demanding that something happen to this white man? They cried all last year about people "talking bad" about them
And not "appreciating them" and whatever bullshyt
This cop killer killed 1 and wounded 5 of his blue brethren.
Where's the cop outrage????
Never mind they won't call this fukker a terrorist or thug-wrong complexion for that
They not even calling him a cop killer
Where's all the police unions now demanding that something happen to this white man? They cried all last year about people "talking bad" about them
And not "appreciating them" and whatever bullshyt
This cop killer killed 1 and wounded 5 of his blue brethren.
Where's the cop outrage????
I heard the shooter loved Corn Pops growing up.
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Some Of My Partners Dope Fiends Ha
For Syria! lol
@1984
Here is something to think about.
"Active Shooter" is a term coined by the Media and Gov't agencies to coin someone shooting up places but it also shows that it proves that the term is a oxymoron. Also the information only comes from twitter and facebook....non credible sources used to push stories that may or may not be true. Also the media uses a source like trollville "*****" as a valuable source of info.
1. The reporter and photographer assigned to the situation
2. The Colorado PD kept their radio frequencies open publicly and broadcasted it live exposing all the people located in the building hiding.
3. The numbers don't fool people...3, 6, 9, 11 are constantly used in shootings( victims, shots, dead, time of shooting, etc).
4. The PP scenario was used to show "See we need to protect PP from the terrorists". Typical.
5. Obama was quick to jump on this as "We need tougher gun control".
Sk3ptical
alhamdulillah
This dude was a walking stereotype:
Robert Dear, Suspect in Colorado Killings, ‘Preferred to Be Left Alone’
By JULIE TURKEWITZ, RICHARD FAUSSET, ALAN BLINDER and BENJAMIN MUELLERNOV. 28, 2015
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Robert L. Dear Jr., the suspect in the shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, made this R.V. his home in tiny Hartsel, Colo. CreditJulie Turkewitz/The New York Times
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Robert Dear, Suspect in Colorado Killings, ‘Preferred to Be Left Alone’
By JULIE TURKEWITZ, RICHARD FAUSSET, ALAN BLINDER and BENJAMIN MUELLERNOV. 28, 2015
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Robert L. Dear Jr., the suspect in the shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, made this R.V. his home in tiny Hartsel, Colo. CreditJulie Turkewitz/The New York Times
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- a shooting rampage at a Planned Parenthood center that left three dead and nine wounded, neighbors said they barely knew him, beyond one man’s memory of his handing out anti-Obama political pamphlets.
Van Wands, 58, whose wife owns a local saloon, said there were two types of people in the area: the old-timers who put effort into getting to know their neighbors, and the newcomers who wished for solitude. Mr. Dear, he said, fell solidly into the second category.
“That’d be one that preferred to be left alone,” he said.
A day after the shooting, a portrait emerged of a man with a sporadic record of brushes with the law, neighbors and relatives. In 1997, Mr. Dear’s wife at the time reported to the police that he had locked her out of her home and pushed her out of a window when she tried to climb back in. In 2002, he was arrested after a neighbor complained that he hid in bushes and tried to peer into her house. An online personal ad believed to be posted by Mr. Dear sought partners for sadomasochistic sex.
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Robert L. Dear Jr. wanted “to be left alone,” a neighbor said. CreditEl Paso County Sheriff's Office
With Colorado Springs residents telling chilling tales of hours spent hiding in stores near the shootout on Friday, the authorities shed no light publicly on whether they believed Mr. Dear, 57, had deliberately targeted Planned Parenthood. But one senior law enforcement official, who would speak only anonymously about an ongoing investigation, said that after Mr. Dear was arrested, he had said “no more baby parts” in a rambling interview with the authorities.
The official said that Mr. Dear “said a lot of things” during his interview, making it difficult for the authorities to pinpoint a specific motivation.
In Washington, Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch said in a statement that the shooting was “not only a crime against the Colorado Springs community, but a crime against women receiving health care services at Planned Parenthood, law enforcement seeking to protect and serve, and other innocent people. It was also an assault on the rule of law, and an attack on all Americans’ right to safety and security.”
Senior Justice Department officials were looking into whether to move forward with a federal case. Along with examining whether Mr. Dear could be charged with a hate crime, officials were exploring whether he may have violated federal laws intended to protect abortion clinics. In 1994, President Bill Clinton signed the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, which makes it a crime to use physical force against patients and clinic employees.
President Obama on Saturday again called on America to tackle gun violence. “This is not normal,” he said in a statement. “We can’t let it become normal. If we truly care about this — if we’re going to offer up our thoughts and prayers again, for God knows how many times, with a truly clean conscience — then we have to do something about the easy accessibility of weapons of war on our streets to people who have no business wielding them.”
Mr. Dear, who had surrendered to the police on Friday evening, remained in custody without bond at the El Paso County criminal justice center. Law enforcement records and interviews began to paint a portrait of an itinerant loner who left behind a trail of disputes and occasionally violent acts toward neighbors and women he knew.
His former wife, Pamela Ross, 54, who was with him for 16 years or so and once called the police to accuse him of domestic violence, recalled that Mr. Dear could be angry at times, sometimes with her. But he was the kind who usually followed a flash of anger with an apology, though he was not much for chitchat.
He was an independent art dealer with a degree in public administration from a Midwestern college, she said, who struck deals with artists, mostly Southern ones, who painted Charleston, S.C., street scenes, Old South plantation tableaus, magnolias and pictures of the Citadel campus. He tended to buy the rights to paintings, commission 1,000 or so prints, then market and sell the prints and keep the proceeds.
He was born in Charleston and grew up in Louisville, Ky., but he had strong ties to South Carolina. His father was a graduate of the Citadel, Charleston’s famous public military college. Robert Lewis Dear Sr., the father, died in 2004. He was a Navy veteran who served in World War II and worked 40 years for the Liggett & Myers Tobacco Company.
The younger Mr. Dear was raised as a Baptist, Ms. Ross said in an interview in Goose Creek, S.C., where she now lives. He was religious but not a regular churchgoer, a believer but not one to harp on religion. “He believed wholeheartedly in the Bible,” she said. “That’s what he always said; he read it cover to cover to cover.” But he was not fixated on it, she added.
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Mr. Dear had also spent time at a small shack, left, with no running water near Black Mountain, N.C. CreditMichael Biesecker/Associated Press
He was generally conservative, but not obsessed with politics. He kept guns around the house for personal protection and hunting, and he taught their son to hunt doves, as many Southern fathers do. He believed that abortion was wrong, but it was not something that he spoke about much. “It was never really a topic of discussion,” she said.
“It never, ever, ever, ever crossed my mind,” she said, that he would be capable of such a thing. “My heart just fell to my stomach.”
Ms. Ross divorced Mr. Dear in 2000. She has since remarried and has seen him only once or twice in 15 years. Their divorce was amicable, and he moved away shortly thereafter, to the Asheville, N.C., region. After the divorce, Mr. Dear had asked her to stay. He eventually took custody of their son, who was 12 at the time. Mr. Dear raised him in North Carolina. Ms. Ross said she had been confident that he would be a good parent and male role model.
She acknowledged that she had once called the police about him but declined to talk about it.
A police incident report shows that in 1997, she told the police that he had locked her out of her home and had “hit her and pushed her out the window” when she tried to climb in. He also shoved her to the ground. The report said she did not want to file charges, but simply “wanted something on record of this incident occurring.”
After his divorce, Mr. Dear lived in a succession of trailer homes and cabins, where he appeared to stir resentments among neighbors and lash out at people around him, according to police reports. Some former neighbors said they were not surprised by the violence in Colorado Springs.
In Swannanoa, N.C., where Mr. Dear had lived for a time in a single-wide trailer, a novelist, Leland Davis, said he had repeatedly been followed by Mr. Dear in a late-model Toyota Tacoma. Mr. Davis believed that Mr. Dear had followed him because he suspected that Mr. Davis had complained to the authorities about how Mr. Dear treated a dog. The men never spoke, Mr. Davis said in an interview in his home Saturday night, but Mr. Dear had mounted something of a scare campaign.
“He followed me all the way into downtown Asheville,” Mr. Davis said. “He followed me three or four times.”
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“I think I would have thought he was a guy who would go on a rampage,” he said. “We were very wary.”
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 1:03
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In Black Mountain, N.C., Mr. Dear had sometimes lived in a small yellow house reachable only after miles of driving on mountain roads. Two sticks, forming a cross, were attached to a padlocked shed that was filled with bedding, gas canisters and worn boxes of beer. He bought the house without running water.
Scott Rupp, who sold it to him, worried about whether Mr. Dear would fit in the community, which was populated by “environmental types,” he said.
“He was like a mountain culture person,” Mr. Rupp said, “and he was really excited to get a place where he could hunt.”
In 2002, in Walterboro, S.C., Mr. Dear was arrested on charges of breaking the state’s “Peeping Tom” law after a neighbor told the police that he had hidden in the bushes in an attempt to peer into her house. For months, the neighbor, Lynn Roberts, said, Mr. Dear was “making unwanted advancements” and “leering” at her on a regular basis, putting her “in fear of her safety,” according to an incident report.
The charge was later dismissed, but a restraining order was issued.
He also repeatedly had other run-ins with neighbors. One, Douglas Moore, said Mr. Dear had called him to threaten “bodily harm” because Mr. Dear believed Mr. Moore had pushed over his motorcycle, according to a police report in 2004. Two years earlier, after Mr. Moore called the police to report his dog’s being shot with a pellet gun, Mr. Dear told investigators, “Douglas was lucky that it was only a pellet that hit the dog and not a bigger round.”
Mr. Dear himself called the police several times to complain of people making a nuisance or breaking a water pipe from his well to his home. In 2007, he accused tenants who were renting his home of stealing a pickup truck, refrigerator and microwave.
He seemed to have a separate life online. An online personals ad seeking women in North Carolina interested in bondage and sadomasochistic sex showed a picture that appeared to be Mr. Dear and used an online pseudonym associated with him. The same user also appeared to have turned to online message boards to seek companions in the Asheville area with whom he could smoke marijuana.
On Cannabis.com, the writer said in December 2005: “AIDS, hurricanes, we are in the end times. Accept the LORD JESUS while you can.”
In his new home in the Rocky Mountains, where he had been registered to vote for only a year, neighbors said they did not know Mr. Dear well. Zigmond Post, who lives about a half-mile from Mr. Dear, said that he had met him only a few times, but that his dogs had once gotten loose on Mr. Dear’s property. When he went to fetch them, Mr. Dear handed him a few pamphlets strongly critical of Mr. Obama. Mr. Post said the pamphlets were strictly political and did not have any anti-abortion messages or racist overtones.
“He gave us these pamphlets and said, ‘Hey, if you ever want to talk about this stuff, look this over,’ ” Mr. Post said in a telephone interview. “I think we threw them into the campfire that night.”
Julie Turkewitz reported from Hartsel, Richard Fausset from Goose Creek, S.C., Alan Blinder from Black Mountain, N.C., and Benjamin Mueller from New York. Jack Healy, Dave Philipps and Kassondra Cloos contributed reporting from Colorado Springs; Michael S. Schmidt from Washington; and Ashley Southall, Liam Stack, Mike McIntire and Jack Begg from New York.
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Let's be real what? What the fukk is a public health center? Let us see lower income women have all this money to be traveling around. (
) Usually they go to the closest one near them. Just like brehette said abortions are an extremely small percentage. They teach women about to take care of their baby. Some broads don't even know how to hold their child etc. Yeah OB/GYN do give BC prescriptions but it will be weeks before they can get an appointment, whereas Planned Parenthood, the woman can get it that day.So much ignorance in this thread.
This dude was a walking stereotype:
Robert Dear, Suspect in Colorado Killings, ‘Preferred to Be Left Alone’
By JULIE TURKEWITZ, RICHARD FAUSSET, ALAN BLINDER and BENJAMIN MUELLERNOV. 28, 2015
Photo
Robert L. Dear Jr., the suspect in the shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, made this R.V. his home in tiny Hartsel, Colo. CreditJulie Turkewitz/The New York Times
Continue reading the main storyShare This Page
- a shooting rampage at a Planned Parenthood center that left three dead and nine wounded, neighbors said they barely knew him, beyond one man’s memory of his handing out anti-Obama political pamphlets.
Van Wands, 58, whose wife owns a local saloon, said there were two types of people in the area: the old-timers who put effort into getting to know their neighbors, and the newcomers who wished for solitude. Mr. Dear, he said, fell solidly into the second category.
“That’d be one that preferred to be left alone,” he said.
A day after the shooting, a portrait emerged of a man with a sporadic record of brushes with the law, neighbors and relatives. In 1997, Mr. Dear’s wife at the time reported to the police that he had locked her out of her home and pushed her out of a window when she tried to climb back in. In 2002, he was arrested after a neighbor complained that he hid in bushes and tried to peer into her house. An online personal ad believed to be posted by Mr. Dear sought partners for sadomasochistic sex.
Photo
Robert L. Dear Jr. wanted “to be left alone,” a neighbor said. CreditEl Paso County Sheriff's Office
With Colorado Springs residents telling chilling tales of hours spent hiding in stores near the shootout on Friday, the authorities shed no light publicly on whether they believed Mr. Dear, 57, had deliberately targeted Planned Parenthood. But one senior law enforcement official, who would speak only anonymously about an ongoing investigation, said that after Mr. Dear was arrested, he had said “no more baby parts” in a rambling interview with the authorities.
The official said that Mr. Dear “said a lot of things” during his interview, making it difficult for the authorities to pinpoint a specific motivation.
In Washington, Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch said in a statement that the shooting was “not only a crime against the Colorado Springs community, but a crime against women receiving health care services at Planned Parenthood, law enforcement seeking to protect and serve, and other innocent people. It was also an assault on the rule of law, and an attack on all Americans’ right to safety and security.”
Senior Justice Department officials were looking into whether to move forward with a federal case. Along with examining whether Mr. Dear could be charged with a hate crime, officials were exploring whether he may have violated federal laws intended to protect abortion clinics. In 1994, President Bill Clinton signed the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, which makes it a crime to use physical force against patients and clinic employees.
President Obama on Saturday again called on America to tackle gun violence. “This is not normal,” he said in a statement. “We can’t let it become normal. If we truly care about this — if we’re going to offer up our thoughts and prayers again, for God knows how many times, with a truly clean conscience — then we have to do something about the easy accessibility of weapons of war on our streets to people who have no business wielding them.”
Mr. Dear, who had surrendered to the police on Friday evening, remained in custody without bond at the El Paso County criminal justice center. Law enforcement records and interviews began to paint a portrait of an itinerant loner who left behind a trail of disputes and occasionally violent acts toward neighbors and women he knew.
His former wife, Pamela Ross, 54, who was with him for 16 years or so and once called the police to accuse him of domestic violence, recalled that Mr. Dear could be angry at times, sometimes with her. But he was the kind who usually followed a flash of anger with an apology, though he was not much for chitchat.
He was an independent art dealer with a degree in public administration from a Midwestern college, she said, who struck deals with artists, mostly Southern ones, who painted Charleston, S.C., street scenes, Old South plantation tableaus, magnolias and pictures of the Citadel campus. He tended to buy the rights to paintings, commission 1,000 or so prints, then market and sell the prints and keep the proceeds.
He was born in Charleston and grew up in Louisville, Ky., but he had strong ties to South Carolina. His father was a graduate of the Citadel, Charleston’s famous public military college. Robert Lewis Dear Sr., the father, died in 2004. He was a Navy veteran who served in World War II and worked 40 years for the Liggett & Myers Tobacco Company.
The younger Mr. Dear was raised as a Baptist, Ms. Ross said in an interview in Goose Creek, S.C., where she now lives. He was religious but not a regular churchgoer, a believer but not one to harp on religion. “He believed wholeheartedly in the Bible,” she said. “That’s what he always said; he read it cover to cover to cover.” But he was not fixated on it, she added.
Photo
Mr. Dear had also spent time at a small shack, left, with no running water near Black Mountain, N.C. CreditMichael Biesecker/Associated Press
He was generally conservative, but not obsessed with politics. He kept guns around the house for personal protection and hunting, and he taught their son to hunt doves, as many Southern fathers do. He believed that abortion was wrong, but it was not something that he spoke about much. “It was never really a topic of discussion,” she said.
“It never, ever, ever, ever crossed my mind,” she said, that he would be capable of such a thing. “My heart just fell to my stomach.”
Ms. Ross divorced Mr. Dear in 2000. She has since remarried and has seen him only once or twice in 15 years. Their divorce was amicable, and he moved away shortly thereafter, to the Asheville, N.C., region. After the divorce, Mr. Dear had asked her to stay. He eventually took custody of their son, who was 12 at the time. Mr. Dear raised him in North Carolina. Ms. Ross said she had been confident that he would be a good parent and male role model.
She acknowledged that she had once called the police about him but declined to talk about it.
A police incident report shows that in 1997, she told the police that he had locked her out of her home and had “hit her and pushed her out the window” when she tried to climb in. He also shoved her to the ground. The report said she did not want to file charges, but simply “wanted something on record of this incident occurring.”
After his divorce, Mr. Dear lived in a succession of trailer homes and cabins, where he appeared to stir resentments among neighbors and lash out at people around him, according to police reports. Some former neighbors said they were not surprised by the violence in Colorado Springs.
In Swannanoa, N.C., where Mr. Dear had lived for a time in a single-wide trailer, a novelist, Leland Davis, said he had repeatedly been followed by Mr. Dear in a late-model Toyota Tacoma. Mr. Davis believed that Mr. Dear had followed him because he suspected that Mr. Davis had complained to the authorities about how Mr. Dear treated a dog. The men never spoke, Mr. Davis said in an interview in his home Saturday night, but Mr. Dear had mounted something of a scare campaign.
“He followed me all the way into downtown Asheville,” Mr. Davis said. “He followed me three or four times.”
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“I think I would have thought he was a guy who would go on a rampage,” he said. “We were very wary.”
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 1:03
Police Transmissions of Colorado Springs Siege
Continue reading the main storyVideo
Police Transmissions of Colorado Springs Siege
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS on Publish Date November 28, 2015. Photo by Justin Edmonds/Getty Images. Watch in Times Video »
In Black Mountain, N.C., Mr. Dear had sometimes lived in a small yellow house reachable only after miles of driving on mountain roads. Two sticks, forming a cross, were attached to a padlocked shed that was filled with bedding, gas canisters and worn boxes of beer. He bought the house without running water.
Scott Rupp, who sold it to him, worried about whether Mr. Dear would fit in the community, which was populated by “environmental types,” he said.
“He was like a mountain culture person,” Mr. Rupp said, “and he was really excited to get a place where he could hunt.”
In 2002, in Walterboro, S.C., Mr. Dear was arrested on charges of breaking the state’s “Peeping Tom” law after a neighbor told the police that he had hidden in the bushes in an attempt to peer into her house. For months, the neighbor, Lynn Roberts, said, Mr. Dear was “making unwanted advancements” and “leering” at her on a regular basis, putting her “in fear of her safety,” according to an incident report.
The charge was later dismissed, but a restraining order was issued.
He also repeatedly had other run-ins with neighbors. One, Douglas Moore, said Mr. Dear had called him to threaten “bodily harm” because Mr. Dear believed Mr. Moore had pushed over his motorcycle, according to a police report in 2004. Two years earlier, after Mr. Moore called the police to report his dog’s being shot with a pellet gun, Mr. Dear told investigators, “Douglas was lucky that it was only a pellet that hit the dog and not a bigger round.”
Mr. Dear himself called the police several times to complain of people making a nuisance or breaking a water pipe from his well to his home. In 2007, he accused tenants who were renting his home of stealing a pickup truck, refrigerator and microwave.
He seemed to have a separate life online. An online personals ad seeking women in North Carolina interested in bondage and sadomasochistic sex showed a picture that appeared to be Mr. Dear and used an online pseudonym associated with him. The same user also appeared to have turned to online message boards to seek companions in the Asheville area with whom he could smoke marijuana.
On Cannabis.com, the writer said in December 2005: “AIDS, hurricanes, we are in the end times. Accept the LORD JESUS while you can.”
In his new home in the Rocky Mountains, where he had been registered to vote for only a year, neighbors said they did not know Mr. Dear well. Zigmond Post, who lives about a half-mile from Mr. Dear, said that he had met him only a few times, but that his dogs had once gotten loose on Mr. Dear’s property. When he went to fetch them, Mr. Dear handed him a few pamphlets strongly critical of Mr. Obama. Mr. Post said the pamphlets were strictly political and did not have any anti-abortion messages or racist overtones.
“He gave us these pamphlets and said, ‘Hey, if you ever want to talk about this stuff, look this over,’ ” Mr. Post said in a telephone interview. “I think we threw them into the campfire that night.”
Julie Turkewitz reported from Hartsel, Richard Fausset from Goose Creek, S.C., Alan Blinder from Black Mountain, N.C., and Benjamin Mueller from New York. Jack Healy, Dave Philipps and Kassondra Cloos contributed reporting from Colorado Springs; Michael S. Schmidt from Washington; and Ashley Southall, Liam Stack, Mike McIntire and Jack Begg from New York.
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So the loner decided to come into the city to bother people....
the media narrative is hilarious.