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500 of them with a 66lb bar according to the Internet :manny: punching and holding your guard up is a traps workout also
Those huge traps are from being a boxer. I've never lifted a weight and got good traps :yeshrug: when you turn a punch over its your trap turning the shoulder over. So if you punch correctly you'll have nice traps
 

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Not sure what's the debate in here.

Tyson did lose.
But he was always a larger-than-life person. And he probably always will be. So in that sense Holyfield will never eclipse Tyson...no matter how many ears he has.

Holyfield was a good fighter. But he did headbutt a lot -- which is really fukkin staggering considering he's not really a short fighter. He fought too long. Losses to John Ruiz and Chris Byrd....

These threads never go anywhere productive because in the end, Tyson discussions come to the same place: You just never know what could have been had Cus or Jimmy Jacobs lived a bit longer. After Jacobs died he really went off the rails.
 

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ESPN coverage back then was CRAZY that night was crazy seemed like the sporting world had stopped and nothing else mattered except that shyt
I remember following that fight live on ESPN where after every round they stop highlights and give an update on who they had winning each round. I remember after the bite the dude cutting in saying "and Mike Tyson has been deducted two points for biting Holyfield's ear" and then cutting in again saying he bit him again. Then they just start giving live play by play talking about Tyson was disqualified and how now Tyson is trying to fight security and Holyfield is trying to get his gloves cut off. Had everybody in the house going crazy wanting to order the fight just to pick up the post fight happenings.

I was in a club in Atlanta watching the first fight so it was a full on pro Holyfield crowd going fukking nuts. After Holyfield got the KO that whole spot just lost it. Overall great doc and really could've gone longer.
 

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Not sure what's the debate in here.

Tyson did lose.
But he was always a larger-than-life person. And he probably always will be. So in that sense Holyfield will never eclipse Tyson...no matter how many ears he has.

Holyfield was an all time great fighter. But he did headbutt a lot -- which is really fukkin staggering considering he's not really a short fighter. He fought too long. Losses to John Ruiz and Chris Byrd....

These threads never go anywhere productive because in the end, Tyson discussions come to the same place: You just never know what could have been had Cus or Jimmy Jacobs lived a bit longer. After Jacobs died he really went off the rails.

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I remember listening to the radio the day after the 2nd fight in 97' and the cac's were furious, called it the most despicable thing they ever seen.... but goes to show u, Tyson was probably the most polarizing athlete of this era.... but vastly overrated as a fighter
 

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I remember listening to the radio the day after the 2nd fight in 97' and the cac's were furious, called it the most despicable thing they ever seen.... but goes to show u, Tyson was probably the most polarizing athlete of this era.... but vastly overrated as a fighter
Nonsense.

Everyone who has seen the entirety of Tyson's career will tell you that his talent early on in his career was extraordinary.

But nobody remembers this because of his self destructive behavior in the 1990s and 2000s.

Tyson wasn't overrated.
He was every bit as good as people thought he could be. It just didn't last.

To me that's not the same as someone who was hyped up but never that great to begin with. Someone like Victor Ortiz in recent years comes to mind.
 

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Caught half the doc, it was dope. Will watch rest tonight.

So glad Mike turned his life around. But man it's frustrating and sad seeing people treat him like an animal to this day. The things people say to him, you just get the impression he's a circus bear being poked. Mike plays into it, honestly that bothers me too but I understand he wants to show everyone he completely changed.
 
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