300mil to get smoked in the playoffs... Lil Koufax is a fraud

[Black Ball]

Considering the amount of opportunities as well as face plants he has, you can make the argument Kershaw is the worst playoff pitcher of all time. I kinda feel bad for dude, because I think he genuinely wants to win. There's something mental about that pressure though, no way around it. A guy you could otherwise argue as a GOAT level pitcher is consistently horrible in clutch moments...

Very similar to Peyton Manning...

And I'm not letting Roberts off the hook, at this point you have to question his management...

No reason to put Kershaw in. Maeda been dominant. That was a move to give dude shine, not to win a baseball game.

He don't have the raw stuff to be a reliever. He usually needs time to find a rhythm in a game and settle in.

 

[Spence]

He’s worse than Peyton, he doesn’t have a single ring and Manning has 2 chips lol

 

[murksiderock]

No reason to put Kershaw in. Maeda been dominant. That was a move to give dude shine, not to win a baseball game.

He don't have the raw stuff to be a reliever. He usually needs time to find a rhythm in a game and settle in.

100%...

He’s worse than Peyton, he doesn’t have a single ring and Manning has 2 chips lol

The year Peyton won his first Super Bowl, 2006, that playoff run was four games and he threw 3 touchdown passes against 7 interceptions. Let that sink in---->the Colts made it to and won the Super Bowl off the strength of great coaching and gameplanning, and great situational defense. They won the Super Bowl in a stretch where he threw more than twice as many picks as touchdowns...

The part missing from Dave Roberts in comparison to Tony Dungy that year is great situational management. Kershaw's your star but you have to put him in the best position to succeed, and give your team the best chance to win. Putting Kershaw in, in that moment, accomplished neither, whereas Dungy in '06 repeatedly gave the Colts opportunity to win despite Peyton once again playing down in the postseason...

We don't even have to go too far in depth about Manning's second chip. He was no longer in his prime, was benched during the season, couldn't throw the ball downfield, and the Broncos won with him completing only 55% of his throws and being a game manager...

Lol so yeah, don't give me the "he won two Super Bowls" thing. Peyton is a true GOAT and a legend and was a thrill to watch--->in the regular season. He's the worst playoff QB ever of any QB that gets whispered as GOAT tier, outside the Super Bowl runs, he had plenty of bad games...

If Kershaw had greater situational management, he'd have a championship too. He is the baseball version of Peyton Manning...

 

[C-Styles]

exactly what i was gonna state but the gentlman above me beat me to it. That at least Peyton Manning snapped out of it, made it to 4 super bowls and won 2. Made his playoff record better in the process as well and went out in his last game with a ring (all beaten up, dead corpse and all)

 

[Trot LaRoc]

100%...



The year Peyton won his first Super Bowl, 2006, that playoff run was four games and he threw 3 touchdown passes against 7 interceptions. Let that sink in---->the Colts made it to and won the Super Bowl off the strength of great coaching and gameplanning, and great situational defense. They won the Super Bowl in a stretch where he threw more than twice as many picks as touchdowns...

The part missing from Dave Roberts in comparison to Tony Dungy that year is great situational management. Kershaw's your star but you have to put him in the best position to succeed, and give your team the best chance to win. Putting Kershaw in, in that moment, accomplished neither, whereas Dungy in '06 repeatedly gave the Colts opportunity to win despite Peyton once again playing down in the postseason...

We don't even have to go too far in depth about Manning's second chip. He was no longer in his prime, was benched during the season, couldn't throw the ball downfield, and the Broncos won with him completing only 55% of his throws and being a game manager...

Lol so yeah, don't give me the "he won two Super Bowls" thing. Peyton is a true GOAT and a legend and was a thrill to watch--->in the regular season. He's the worst playoff QB ever of any QB that gets whispered as GOAT tier, outside the Super Bowl runs, he had plenty of bad games...

If Kershaw had greater situational management, he'd have a championship too. He is the baseball version of Peyton Manning...

Facts. Peyton didnt win nann off his arm. He got lukky that he got to face a Bears team with Rex fukkin Grossman as QB and even then it wasnt anything to do with manning...he played like trash

The Denver defense won that second ring...manning was basically Trent Dilfer status and stayed out the way

Why i hate the rings narrative. Manning constantly choked when he had to win off his arm.....just like Kershaw

 

[Stop_It_5]

Can't put last night on lil koufax, Roberts set him up to fail

 

[duckbutta]

Can't put last night on lil koufax, Roberts set him up to fail

When you are the ace of your team...the highest paid pitcher on your team...and supposedly an all time great pitcher...their is no such thing as "set him up to fail"...

We going to act like Mad Madison hasn't pitched in pretty much ever spot for the giants in the post season and dominated?

 

[FaTaL]

Can't put last night on lil koufax, Roberts set him up to fail

Yea he should of never pitched him in the first place

 

[wire28]

Damn, you hate to see it...

look forward to seeing you all again next year

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Can't put last night on lil koufax, Roberts set him up to fail

this loss is on both of them.

in a short series, it’s automatic all hands on deck ESPECIALLY if you’re the ace of the squad. Roberts earned his firing and maybe the Dodgers do it after the World Series just so the hoopla is less than it would be today. But the Dodgers should have floated into the World Series again.

the Nats are literally doing everyone’s dirty work for them this postseason and the Rays are about to do the same thing. As a Yankees fan I tip my cap to them

 

[Trojan 24]

When you are the ace of your team...the highest paid pitcher on your team...and supposedly an all time great pitcher...their is no such thing as "set him up to fail"...

We going to act like Mad Madison hasn't pitched in pretty much ever spot for the giants in the post season and dominated?

Kershaw fukked up for sure, but he's no longer the ace of the team. I would have rather seen Urias go out there for an inning

 

[L. Deezy]

Huge fan of both players. Seriously. My favorite two pitchers ever. Your argument sucks man.
Because Kershaw's not as good as arguably the greatest pitcher ever (Pedro) that makes him garbage? If Kershaw is garbage what does that make the rest of the pitcher's in baseball? .

Sidenote, his playoff ERA last year, even after that game he got blasted, was only 3.13. I'm not factoring in previous playoffs when he was 20 years old. Majority of pitchers aren't even in the majors at that age. Seems like you're trying to find something to fit your agenda.

Kershaw is the best pitcher in the game. Think what you want but the actual players say it's true so who are we to argue?

lol... 5 years later, how do you feel?

 

[Michael's Black Son]

 

[King P]

Can't put last night on lil koufax, Roberts set him up to fail

To be honest, last night wasn't all his fault.

Can't fault Kershaw for the Rendon homer. That was a sinking curve way below the strike zone that most hitters would completely whiff at. And if they did make contact, they wouldn't do much with it. Gotta give all the credit to Rendon for going deep there.

Now the Soto bomb was completely his fault. Threw a hanging slider right over the plate, he was asking for trouble there. Soto made him pay for his mistake.

Was a combination of great hitting and bad pitching. That Rendon HR changed everything. So in a sense I do feel a tad bit bad for Kershaw because it wasn't all fault yet it's being used to push the narrative that he's a choker.

But at the same time he does have a history of underperforming in the playoffs so :ohwelp:

 

[RisingSon]

That game 1 meltdown vs the Cardinals will forever be his greatest ether.