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Not Gods fault when bad things happen humanity pulled that trigger, raped, and caused pain for other people

I wouldnt want or expect him to jump in and help us he made us smart and able . I don't believe everything in the bible word for word but I do believe in God i don't follow organized religion

I mean is God suppose to come down and save someone every time someone is in trouble theres a billion people on this planet
 
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the cac mamba said:
regarding your stats...how many minorities are religious directly due to white peoples' influence? :scusthov: isnt that a much WORSE stat?

There isn't a civilization on this planet that wasn't 'religious' prior to the invention of the 'White race', so, the answer to your question is none.​
 

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Well fukk him then. :rudy:

He might as well not exist. He doesn't help to alleviate any of the suffering of his creation. Just throwing nikkas to the wolves and then blaming us on some "You shoulda known better" bullshyt.

On top of that, we have to wait until the afterlife to get answers? No empirical proof here, but once we die, God's just waiting in the cut, ready to talk?

Sounds like the rest of these bullshyt "religious contexts" to me. :sas2: :camby:

I think that goes to @marcuz 's point though, applying religious and man-made context to the idea of a creator.

The only thing that says a creator, God in the Abrahamic sense, is beholden to any kind of responsibilities to his creations is the text that was written and stories that've been told. None of it could be true, all of it could be true. That's what agnosticism is about.

I personally feel that the uncertainty opens up the mind. Everything is true and nothing is true. Is God a construct of the world or are we but a small part of something we can't even begin to fully realize? I don't feel I got my point across but I might be able to explain it better, if asked.
 

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I trip out how, as I get older, and as my family like cousins, aunts, uncles, etc, get older, they suddenly become hardcore christians. Now I don't have a problem with anyone looking up to something to make them a better person, I just have a problem with them acting as if being a christian is the only way. I don't believe in religion, but I do believe in a god or higher power. I live my life to be good to everything around me and don't look down on anyone for having a different belief.
 

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although i agree with the thread, i still dont see why nikkas jump from religious extremist to "its impossible for a creator to exist"

I'm black and I'm a deist.

I posted this a few days ago.

The world was created in days but blacks were enslaved for centuries. Some magic fairy dust can't help us out down here for an even playing field? Either he is fake or he don't love us. That said, I'll roll dolo and remain a deist.
 

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Kobes Middle Finger said:

This is false. Let me show you some of YOUR history.........

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/acko/hd_acko.htm

In 1491, King Nzinga converted to Christianity of his own free will, urging the Kongo nobility and peasant classes to follow suit. To varying degrees, the Kongo kingdom remained Christian for the next 200 years. Scholars continue to dispute the authenticity of Kongolese Christian faith and the degree to which the adoption of a new faith was motivated by political and economic realities. From the time of Nzinga's conversion until the seventeenth century, Kongo leadership engaged in extensive communications with religious and political leaders from Europe, including the pope and other members of the Vatican, who accepted the Kongo church as orthodox.

The Kongo kingdom was one of the largest in sub-Saharan Africa during this period; spanning over 115,000 square miles, it had a highly centralized monarchy as well as a powerful noble class. The urban nobility sustained its luxurious lifestyle through a heavy tax system levied on the rural peasant class. Bulk products from the provinces, including copper, salt, wild animal products (hides and ivory), as well as cloth and later slaves, were traded to the Portuguese. Conversion to Christianity solidified these important trading relationships.

The Kongolese nobility swiftly adopted Christianity for several reasons. The first is that the nature of the centralized government and the hierarchically structured society facilitated the dissemination of information. The translations of Christian doctrine into the local language, KiKongo, was done such that words like spirit, god, and holy were rendered directly equivalent to existing concepts in Kongo cosmology. Missionary documents from the seventeenth century claimed that they had found a people who believed in a single god but did not know his name. This tolerant version of conversion practice differs dramatically from the often violent Spanish equivalent in the Americas, which was based on a principle requiring a "change of heart." In parts of Kongo, Christianity was accepted not as a new religion that would replace the old, but rather as a new syncretic cult that was fully compatible with existing structures.


 
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You have broken the indoctrination OP.... good job...

My religious co-worker wonder why i dont believe... I tell them, trust me id rather not tell you... cause if i did you would hate me so damned much cause id be right.... :yeshrug:
lol, I swear, I don't even get into it with family on this issue because they are just so blind. People as they age, simply don't like to be taught new things, or don't like the fact that they've lived a lie.
 

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The main reason I fell back from it was that I realized it's nearly impossible (and flat out impossible in my personal case) to live a completely proactive lifestyle if you think a man in the sky is going to help you out when shyt gets real. I grew tired of asking "Why me?" When terrible things continued to happen in my life. And now I take things for what they are and work on solutions. You'll always live a reactive lifestyle as long as you believe in God. I just get things done, and whatever mishaps occur along the way, I chalk it up to just my life taking its course :manny:
you can do all these things with the belief that there is a creator of the universe.

Now whether or not he/she is truly omnipotent is up for discussion...
 

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The main reason I fell back from it was that I realized it's nearly impossible (and flat out impossible in my personal case) to live a completely proactive lifestyle if you think a man in the sky is going to help you out when shyt gets real. I grew tired of asking "Why me?" When terrible things continued to happen in my life. And now I take things for what they are and work on solutions. You'll always live a reactive lifestyle as long as you believe in God. I just get things done, and whatever mishaps occur along the way, I chalk it up to just my life taking its course :manny:

Something good happens: Old head says that you should thank god
Something bad happens: Everything happens for a reason/god works in mysterious ways

Young Iceberg = :ohhh:
Older Iceberg : :rudy:
 

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The problem of evil:

G-d is all good.
G-d is all powerful.
Evil exists.

Only two of these can be true. People have been debating this forever.

The answer is : G-d is not all good. All the bullshyt comes from the same source as all the good shyt. Now be careful: everything good does come from the source so if you wanna talk shyt, stop breathing G-d's air for a while. Water is one of the most important things and it pours down from the sky for free. Stop drinking the water if you got beef.

Even though the Universe is super deadly, it's also safe and warm in spots. That's all you get you selfish b*stards. Be grateful.
 
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