Describe the table because the ONLY reason Em ain't at that table is because he's a recluse and is content with his life and $$$. Em's one of the few artist who can legit still sell 500,000+ in one week with no need for any new rules of a company buying his records or counting streams.
That's just as much off his being white as off him being a good rapper.
I respect this opinion. Don't agree but I respect it
Well artistic value is a matter of opinion. I feel what you saying.
Both legends and have don for the culture
Not arguing that at all. Numbers are numbers though. They don't put an asterisk next to someone cuz of their skin color haha.
Jay usually sells around 400,000 to 500,000 first week every time without any streams or whatever. When people say Em isn't at the table they mean that he's the only guy who gets put in top 5 conversations off the strength of rappity rap shyt whereas everyone else it has more to do with album quality. Think of any of the greats and put them with Eminem and rank their discographies--Em would lose always. If we did a top 5 Jay Z and Eminem album 4/5 would belong to Jay. Same with Nas. Same with Pac. Same if we did a best 2 out of 3 or 3/4 (if you count LAD as two) with Biggie, etc. Eminem has not had any influence on hip hop culture since he left after Encore. Now he's just a guy who raps but the general hip hop audience doesn't care. Look @ the discussion around this album versus MMLP 2.
I respect that. Em def doesn't have the greatest discography.
This is true which makes his longevity even more impressive to me. Him and Em actually...that at their 'old' age they are still able to sell a lot, create a huge buzz, and bring in big business. They're the only two old rappers who business wise can still do stadium shows, sell big numbers in the first week, etc. I got mad respect for both of 'em. And Jay's business acumen the past decade is incredible to watch.
