50 Cent Bankruptcy by the numbers [WSJ]

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If rappers have money like that why did rick ross take a week to get out of jail and have to put up so much property to get out?

You gotta stay liquid. He might not be worth 1 billion, but if he is at 10 or 20 million, why dump that kind of money when you can use leverage such as property or loans.

I'm not a Rick Ross fan, but why dudes fight so hard not to peep game.

Look how many rappers who have no tax troubles, financial troubles, or bankruptcies. When they do it makes front page news, like Young Buck or Scott Storch.
 

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There's not many people who 1) can afford a house that big and 2) even want one that large. That shyt is 50,000 square feet :mindblown:

It would have been okay if it was built in London, Cali, or New York.

Buying Mike Tyson's mansion in CT was always an iffy proposition, same reason why Ross buying Holyfield's mansion in Georgia was stupid.
 

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jesus christ, almighty................

Here's the kicker in all of this for people following along. 50 brings in +187,000 a MONTH. On any day, that's goddamn amazing. But somehow he was led astray thinking he could have all these liabilities.

Get rid of the house, hoooooooly shyt. Rent it, make it part of a reality show called "Living w/ Fif", do something.

If he gets rid of the house, he will be so much lighter and flexible.
House ain't the prob. He only owes a mill. It's in alignment to a proper spend to income level. Only 17k in payments when making 110 plus a month
 

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You gotta stay liquid. He might not be worth 1 billion, but if he is at 10 or 20 million, why dump that kind of money when you can use leverage such as property or loans.

I'm not a Rick Ross fan, but why dudes fight so hard not to peep game.

Look how many rappers who have no tax troubles, financial troubles, or bankruptcies. When they do it makes front page news, like Young Buck or Scott Storch.
Plus Ross was denied something at first I believe.
 

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I think a lot of you guys are missing the point, if the chapter 11. He has to show he's insolvent. They want to know his finances so of course the books are cooked, and weighed heavy in his favor. The defense wants him to be rich and 50 wants to be poor. Y'all are looking at the short game and making assumption s.
 

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I've said for years that Forbes was a bunch of BS, but nobody listened. They have no clue what a person's assets are. How could they?
Have you seen Forbes rules? shyt is fukkery to the nth degree, anyone can vouch for you, you just have to have dubious financial advisors. I think it is a lot easier to do if you have the perception that your net worth is extremely high.

Hip Hop needs to veer on a different road where it concerns perception. Because this is not obtainable for close to ANYONE to have this kind of wealth in such a short time. That's not how ANY of this shyt works.

Vice should do a documentary on Forbes and their "Process" how they determine wealth. Because this magazine has a lot to gain to create these imaginary figures as well. It gives the perception of the myth of "self made man" :francis:
 

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I think a lot of you guys are missing the point, if the chapter 11. He has to show he's insolvent. They want to know his finances so of course the books are cooked, and weighed heavy in his favor. The defense wants him to be rich and 50 wants to be poor. Y'all are looking at the short game and making assumption s.


50 Cent even takes interest and dividends from his concerts, so its not that he is cooking the books. They can't count anything as personal assets if it never touches your hands. This is what 50 has done.

Do we really believe 50 only saw 25 million dollars his entire career?
 

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OT but relevant: While we are at it, let's take a look at Forbes Rules on how they determine Wealth metrics for these amazing entrepreneurs. I tell you one thing, anyone that spends money like Fif is not making the numbers of a Marc Pincus :sas2: 150 million? These "alleged rumors" Publicist nonsense. I'm calling bullshyt...

from NY times:

"Quantifying extreme wealth is a notoriously tricky business, since many billionaires have large and complex investments, some of which are public and some of which aren’t. Both Bloomberg and Forbes have released explanations of their methodology. Bloomberg says that its list relies on a mixture of public and private data, with the valuations of private companies being calculated relative to public competitors, and with a “liquidity discount” of 5 percent applied to companies whose “assets may be hard to sell.” Forbes says it relies on interviews with accountants, advisers and lawyers to compile its list, and takes into account “stakes in public and private companies, real estate, yachts, art and cash” while accounting for debt. Bloomberg says it makes no assumptions about personal debt.
Even with those considerations, the lists capture only paper wealth — the kind that can be tracked by running publicly available information through a mathematical model — and also the kind that tends to fluctuate wildly day to day.
Say, for example, you are calculating the net worth of Zynga’s founder, Mark Pincus (719 on this year’s Forbes list). You could multiply Mr. Pincus’s stake in Zynga (around 112 million shares) by the stock’s closing price of about $14.35 per share on Feb. 14, the day Forbes locked down stock prices for its annual rankings. Throw in ballpark values for any other holdings Mr. Pincus might have – houses, cars, non-Zynga stocks, angel investments in private companies – and you would arrive at a number close to the $1.8 billion Forbes says the tech mogul is worth.
But close the wealth rankings a day later – Feb. 15, a day on which Zynga released disappointing earnings and saw its shares slump to $11.80 – and Mr. Pincus is worth maybe only $1.5 billion, a paper loss of roughly 17 percent of his net worth overnight.
This is the kind of motion that makes the Bloomberg and Forbes lists fascinating to watch. But, of course, it has nothing to do with the liquid capital available to Mr. Pincus at any given time.
Even if he wanted to, Mr. Pincus could not dump his Zynga shares on the open market without provoking an investor panic. And if he were cashed out by a third party – say, if a private equity firm decided to take the company private – he would no doubt get a premium on the shares.
Both Forbes and Bloomberg try to increase the accuracy of their lists by talking to the billionaires themselves. But letting billionaires weigh in on their own worth introduces other risks, namely, the possibility of dishonesty.
“We don’t assume anyone’s telling us the exact truth,” Randall Lane, the editor of Forbes, said in an interview by phone on Thursday about his magazine’s methodology. “Some want to be higher, some want to be lower. That’s part of the fun.”
This year, Mr. Lane said, his reporting staff fielded calls about an Asian billionaire whose handlers tried to convince Forbes to switch the date on which they nailed down their prices; the billionaire’s stock was trading too low for his tastes. And there was the Latin American billionaire who wanted the magazine to raise his value based on an asset he claimed was worth $3 billion dollars, although the asset had not yet produced revenue.
“We try to be exact,” Mr. Lane said. “But even the people themselves, unless it’s someone who is 100 percent in publicly traded stock, you don’t know what your assets are worth.”
Mr. Lane conceded that the complex and shifting components of a seven- or eight-figure net worth made exact valuation nearly impossible in some cases. Moreover, he said, finding the correct numbers was not really the point.
“It’s less about the number, per se,” he said. “This is a scorecard of who the most important people are.”
Left unsaid by Mr. Lane is that the billionaires list has been a cash cow for Forbes, enough so that the magazine can assign 50 staffers in 16 countries to the project. Bloomberg’s list, too, has proven popular. It zoomed to the top of the most-read list on its terminals, and has been spawning daily article after daily article as members of the list overtake each other.
In short, Mr. Lane has a point: the reasons to make lists of billionaires may have less to do with quantifying wealth than giving outsiders an organized, ranked way to gawk at it – which, even in the Occupy era, seems to be a treasured and profitable pastime."
 

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50 spends money.....?:mjlol:

dude is known for being a cheap-skate:lolbron:

dude's so tight with his money he probably squeaks when he walks:francis:

dude borrows friends money(prodigy,chris lighty etc) and charges interest

he stated he only treats himself when he does successful deals:jbhmm:

hell his ways dates back to his come up days....
 
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