You said it, you started the thread but okay...... "it's irrelevant" :pharrell:
50 Cent or Kanye West?
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You said it, you started the thread but okay...... "it's irrelevant" :pharrell:
JermaineTR
O.G.
50 ofc
I mentioned Rocky? the fukk are you talking about? are you high this early in the morning?
The fact of the matter is you came into this thread and mentioned Rocky out of the blue like a defensive loser. If you're so bothered by Rocky, set up a thread and we'll discuss him. If you really want to know how incorrect you are about Rocky in this thread, and you're serious about learning something new, then I can explain. But I'm not gonna argue back and forth with trolls.
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avon barksdale
i want my corners
Didn't they have this in 08 when 50 said he would retire if Kanye beat him in album sales and he did but wood face is still here 
so I pick yezzy
so I pick yezzy
Ye is a good artist, but his music isnt genuine, only weirdos, hipsters, gays, and cacs can relate to his music. 50 cent came from nothing, you can hear his hunger in his music, his mama wasnt a PHD.
Didn't they have this in 08 when 50 said he would retire if Kanye beat him in album sales and he did but wood face is still here
shameful personality to go with a legendary character from the wire, friend. 50 beat Kanye Kardashian in sales overall.
avon barksdale
i want my corners
This is what you said not me...so I have no reason to defend anything since i'm not "SirBiatch"
All you are saying really is it's "okay for Rocky but not Kanye" - that inconsistency crushes your whole sticking point.
So present a better one, get it ? Good
As rap artists- they are neck and neck....that's only because 50 is my favorite though
If I put aside my own bias...Kanye gets it, his impact is far too great to ignore
I'm not inconsistent at all.
Rocky's music (at least if I'm talking about LiveLoveASAP) is 10 times more hardcore, struggle-based and aggressive than anything in Ye's discography. The Mob's whole steez is hood. They drink 40s, lean, say some tough guy shyt and rhyme hard on hard beats.
It just so happens to resonate with some hipsters/cacs. Any act would. I'm sure Rakim resonates with some cacs and hipsters. But the point is that Rakim's music is street to the core, just as hip hop is. Rocky's music isnt as street as Rakim's but it's still street.
There is nothing street about Kanye's music at all. Never has been. For my tastes, that's a major problem because the beauty and power in hip hop is in its street nature. When you water that down too much, the genre becomes pointless. And hip hop history has shown periodically that culture vultures have a disdain for hip hop's street nature and would rather consume the watered down version of whatever's out. They flirt with the hardcore shyt from time to time, and can even get drunk to it, but deep down they can't relate to the inner city/streets on a consistent basis.
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Hiphop has always been a tool for social commentary. Why does the subject matter have to center around abject poverty and using crime to overcome it in order for you to validate it's power and beauty ? What do you think of rappers that pre-date the 90s that didn't spit "street-shyt" are these pioneers watered-down and pointless too ?
I think the power and beauty is in the expression of this art form.
Culture vultures don't have to relate to hardcore music, they can live vicariously through it...
The tides have just changed - that's all.
JayBaldacci
All Star
50 prior to get rich was a nicer rapper then ye. You could argue that neither have a classic.
No it hasn't. It's party music. People didn't even rap at first until a few years after hip hop was created. And they weren't rhyming about anything deep.
The social commentary came much later. Melle Mel kinda kickstarted the social commentary thing with "The Message", and P.E. really kicked the doors down.
You're getting distracted by subject matter. It has little to do with that. It has far more to do with the SOUND of the music. Hip hop has a certain roughness and grit to its genre that's ALWAYS been there because it's created by poor, intelligent people. There's a reason they call James Brown the godfather of hip hop: his music was rough and gritty. Hip hop took that shyt and multiplied it by 100. Playing breaks and djing had that rough party feel to it.
Rocky's music is grittier than Ye's just in the sound alone. That's what I mean by street. The beat for "Bass" is way more street than anything in Ye's discography. And the way Rocky raps on it in a calm but very commanding way... that's street.
Make sense?
Kanye.
50 cent is corny
Only bum ass nikkas and wiggers listen to him.
He was entertaining at one point tho in like 2005
I hate when muthaphuckas say corny shyt like this
the cac mamba
Veteran
50 all day
50 bars is better than half of yes catalogue
50 bars is better than half of yes catalogue