50 Cent speaking that real....

[OG Talk]

I have zero issue discussing the rape case. It's a part of his story, his life, etc. It happened, there was a case, there was evidence, you can find it online readily, etc. If the goal is to remember humans - not gods or idols - then we should examine the totality of their life. We should talk about the trial...and the clear shift in Kobe's life after the trial. The evolution Kobe took, going from a player who at one point was clowned and despised by some...to a player nearly universally beloved. A player who went out his way to mentor girls and women. That's an interesting conversation to have...and one that we can't have without acknowledging the case and what came afterward.

The ONLY reason to discuss this case after his death is to be salacious. You don’t HAVE to make this part of his life story in order to take him down a notch from “Hero to human”.

That’s a deliberate choice, that is used inconsistently and strategically.

Take race out of it, it’s a weird obsession we have with celebrities.

For example if your 86 year old uncle James dies and the newspaper features his obituary, they will only mention the positive occurrences of his life. That’s how the dead are honored.

They’re not gotta put a paragraph stating “ Uncle James was a plumber for 45 years, and survived by his wife and grandchildren. He also was arrested for a DUI and Hit and Run back in the summer of ‘67”

Or

“Aunt Helen died of cancer at age 58. She cheated on her husband at age 33 and filed bankruptcy at age 36”

Even though these may all be facts and “part of the whole story” people don’t bring it up during death while the family is grieving because it would be viewed as tacky and classless.

It’s weird how with certain celebrities. The media feels like it has no choice. We only examine the “totality of ones life” when there is an agenda to push. It’s usually financial.

 

[JuvenileHell]

I have zero issue discussing the rape case. It's a part of his story, his life, etc. It happened, there was a case, there was evidence, you can find it online readily, etc. If the goal is to remember humans - not gods or idols - then we should examine the totality of their life. We should talk about the trial...and the clear shift in Kobe's life after the trial. The evolution Kobe took, going from a player who at one point was clowned and despised by some...to a player nearly universally beloved. A player who went out his way to mentor girls and women. That's an interesting conversation to have...and one that we can't have without acknowledging the case and what came afterward. And we also can't have it in this climate where you are either all good or all bad. Where one mis-step renders you cancelled for life.

My problem with Gayle (and Oprah) is that they selectively choose who to target with their faux investigative journalism. Gayle is on record dapping Charlie Rose, Oprah is on record dapping Weinstein. Their behavior strikes me as a perfect example of white feminism. The type of feminism that revels in surface level tokenism and identity politics, which are used to gain a seat at the very same table that was designed/powered by systematic sexism. The women who were molested and raped by powerful white men are merely sacrifices to be ignored/overlooked as Gayle, Oprah, and others climb as far as they can in order to be as close as they can to power. Denigrating Kobe doesn't endanger their position at the table. Denigrated MJ doesn't either. Denigrating Weinstein though? Charlie Rose? Matt Lauer? They'll never do it. Because the men at that table are guilty of all the same crimes that Weinstein/Rose/Lauer/etc committed. They just haven't been exposed yet...but they sure as hell aren't going to sit back and let women who might expose them get into positions of power or influence.

If you ever have to write a eulogy for someone I hope you include all of the bad things as well the good things about them, wonder how that will go over with family members

 

[JuvenileHell]

The ONLY reason to discuss this case after his death is to be salacious. You don’t HAVE to make this part of his life story in order to take him down a notch from “Hero to human”.

That’s a deliberate choice, that is used inconsistently and strategically.

Take race out of it, it’s a weird obsession we have with celebrities.

For example if your 86 year old uncle James dies and the newspaper features his obituary, they will only mention the positive occurrences of his life. That’s how the dead are honored.

They’re not gotta put a paragraph stating “ Uncle James was a plumber for 45 years, and survived by his wife and grandchildren. He also was arrested for a DUI and Hit and Run back in the summer of ‘67”

Or

“Aunt Helen died of cancer at age 58. She cheated on her husband at age 33 and filed bankruptcy at age 36”

Even though these may all be facts and “part of the whole story” people don’t bring it up during death while the family is grieving because it would be viewed as tacky and classless.

It’s weird how with certain celebrities. The media feels like it has no choice. We only examine the “totality of ones life” when there is an agenda to push. It’s usually financial.

These people talking about "We must remember the totality of their existence" would strangle the person that talks about their dead mother's younger, thottier days after she passes if she was indeed a thot in her youth.

What makes what Oprah and co are trying to do to Kobe even crazier is that he had allegations against him and the case was dropped and he wasn't convicted. And he still went on the become one of the biggest advocates for women in sports, especially basketball. The only thing you can hold against Kobe is the fact that he cheated...and even then it's up to Vanessa to deal with that, which she clearly did by staying with him, and doesn't negate the positive that Kobe has done from then onward

 

[old pig]

1000%

didn’t sugarcoat it cuz he was @ a red carpet event neither

use your powers strictly for good and not fukkery 50

kicked pure logic

you’d have to be a hateful/ignorant person not to see the sense in what he said

 

[old pig]

No lie, this left me damn near speechless lol
Never heard 50 speak so eloquently. Much props to him

he does so on many occasions...unfortunately it gets overshadowed by a lot of his other antics

 

[old pig]

You forget, but Gayle was the one who smoothed things over with Oprah when Oprah was coming at the entire rap industry when 50 came out

ya I imagine 50’s reaction must sting her a bit cuz I remember her publicly expressing she was a fan of his and actually fawning over him one time...they seemed “cool” @ one point so she knows this is not him coming from some long-stemming issue he’s had w/ her

just google “gayle king 50” and go to images and you’ll see all the pics they took together in the past...so she know 50 is pissed to be coming @ her like this

*edit*

lol she even got a temporary tattoo of him @ one point

 

[xiceman191]

It always kills me that people ain't got to shyt when people alive but as soon as they die they want to bring the shyt up to tarnish their legacy. LIke they had all this time to deal with the shyt with Kobe and Michael Jackson but they let that shyt go and ain't said shyt. Now they die all of a sudden its something that needs to be discussed.

 

[old pig]

I still bet Gayle got that good vintage snapper tho...

...Dat Women of Brewster's place, coconut long boy candy p*ssy

whhat??

 

[BK The Great]

I’m siding with 50 on this one, it’s wrong to bring up that while the family is grieving. All for views, sad.

 

[old pig]

I’m siding with 50 on this one, it’s wrong to bring up that while the family is grieving. All for views, sad.

wrong to bring it up period

it was dealt w/ legally

shyt is done

as he said...trying to “convict” him publicly in death is not justice...shyt is revenge smh

 

[Cat piss martini]

lit that hoe up with class.
this is what i was saying.
we gotta scarlet letter those that
aim to destroy black people as a unit.

 

[I Really Mean It]

fukk all of these c00n bytches. Black women off code and actively conspiring with our enemy is a problem that needs to be dealt with.

 

[JoseLuisGotcha]

Damn that was probably the most mature and sincere thing I’ve ever heard from 50....

I’d like to hear more from this 50 he flat out put that argument to bed there’s no rebuttal for that

 

[Malik1time]

hes right
you gain nothing

 

[BK The Great]

wrong to bring it up period

it was dealt w/ legally

shyt is done

as he said...tying to “convict” him publicly in death is not justice...shyt is revenge smh

True, but there’s always gonna be people who want to drag his name down the mud for views. I don’t think it will end, maybe won’t be on interviews but else where.