50cent Explains WHY He Thinks JAY-Z is a Punk

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avoiding confrontation is exactly what makes you a punk. the only question is if it is necessarily a bad thing.

I completely disagree, I feel that is an extremely childish mentality. Anybody sane in my opinion would try to do everything they can to avoid confrontation unless it's absolutely necessary. What makes you a punk is if you don't ride when it is necessary, or act like a bytch or a sell out because you won't get in confrontation. If a situation gets to beef people can die, your family members, your friends, yourself, or you can go to jail for a huge amount of years and destroy your entire life. It's not something to take lightly, because somebody takes a minor shot at you, sometimes you can let it slide as these things can escalate it quick. Avoiding confrontation makes someone a real mature individual in my opinion, I understand tempers get out of control at times but if your mind is right it's something you would prefer to not have beef. The people who say shyt like this are normally immature or they fronting and haven't been in no real life situations, it isn't fun. It's not something to enter into lightly, if someone was attacking someones wife and the person stood by and watched cause they didn't want to have a fist fight with them THAT makes you a punk, but not starting a huge beef cause somebody says a few minor words about you does not make you a punk at all.
 

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It's also irresponsible when you have people who will die for you and fight for and with you and you put them in danger or at risk over something minor. You have to evaluate each situation individually, it's like a war, you don't send your troops to war because another country said your dumb, you may do if there a threat.
 

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I completely disagree, I feel that is an extremely childish mentality. Anybody sane in my opinion would try to do everything they can to avoid confrontation unless it's absolutely necessary. What makes you a punk is if you don't ride when it is necessary, or act like a bytch or a sell out because you won't get in confrontation. If a situation gets to beef people can die, your family members, your friends, yourself, or you can go to jail for a huge amount of years and destroy your entire life. It's not something to take lightly, because somebody takes a minor shot at you, sometimes you can let it slide as these things can escalate it quick. Avoiding confrontation makes someone a real mature individual in my opinion, I understand tempers get out of control at times but if your mind is right it's something you would prefer to not have beef. The people who say shyt like this are normally immature or they fronting and haven't been in no real life situations, it isn't fun. It's not something to enter into lightly, if someone was attacking someones wife and the person stood by and watched cause they didn't want to have a fist fight with them THAT makes you a punk, but not starting a huge beef cause somebody says a few minor words about you does not make you a punk at all.

i didn't say that the mentality isn't childish, but the whole concept of being a punk comes from this type of mentality. people who think like that will test you and see how you react. if you avoid the confrontation, they know you are a punk, it's that simple. some people, like jay-z, can afford to avoid confrontation, because they move in different circles and can just ignore the people confronting them. others can't. if you get confronted by the neighborhood bully and your just visiting, you can avoid the confrontation, because you will most likely not see him again. if you live there, you will have to adress him, or else he is going to punk you every day. if you think that avoiding confrontation is the mature thing to do, than the whole concept of being a punk doesn't apply to you, because you have a different mentality and move in a different environment. but to people who don't, you will be a punk. :yeshrug:
 

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i didn't say that the mentality isn't childish, but the whole concept of being a punk comes from this type of mentality. people who think like that will test you and see how you react. if you avoid the confrontation, they know you are a punk, it's that simple. some people, like jay-z, can afford to avoid confrontation, because they move in different circles and can just ignore the people confronting them. others can't. if you get confronted by the neighborhood bully and your just visiting, you can avoid the confrontation, because you will most likely not see him again. if you live there, you will have to adress him, or else he is going to punk you every day. if you think that avoiding confrontation is the mature thing to do, than the whole concept of being a punk doesn't apply to you, because you have a different mentality and move in a different environment. but to people who don't, you will be a punk. :yeshrug:

Just cause some ignorant people think something doesn't make it reality. I know straight up killers that avoid confrontation, because of all the dirt they done they just want a peaceful life, they will only beef or get into it if it's necessary, sometimes the ones who avoid it are more dangerous cause they let it build up and snap rather than some loud mouth always fronting. I don't believe it's that simple at all, they might THINK your a punk but you could very well not be, if someone is surrounded by a gang of 20 people with knives and guns but they walk away are they a punk? Cause there avoiding that confrontation instead of fighting them all? Not at all. It's about the intentions why you are walking a way. That's a different situation in regards to the neighbourhood bully, that's a highly specific situation not the norm, obviously if you keep taking abuse and not doing anything you could be called a punk, but in this case for instance Jay isn't responding because he's probably got other shyt to do, I'd rather fukk Beyonce and make dope music than trade childish insults with 50 Cent lol, 50 wouldn't even be on my radar, if Nas dissed me that's different cause he's an a true MC, I'd wanna have that confrontation to test skills but with 50 it's just petty, his tactic was to beef with everyone for prono, why fall into that? That means your getting played and used as a pawn.
 

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He has an teen son (hardbody), a newborn, and a bun in the oven -- all b*stards! Curtis had better get money to feed those lambs.

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Jay-z mentioned him once in 99, dissed him on stage while he was standing backstage.
And told him to man up and fall the fukk back.

Since then, 50 has had a mixed father/big brother complex with Jay. :troll: or not :leon:
 

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That's what I'm saying, Jay did mention him while they were in the same location, so I don't see why he's a punk for not mentioning him now, he's in a different space, back then 50 was hungry and up and coming so Jay threw a shot, now 50 dissing people is completely played out, you can't reply to everyone and it don't make you a punk, if people replied to every diss record they would be making diss records all day.
 

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Just cause some ignorant people think something doesn't make it reality. I know straight up killers that avoid confrontation, because of all the dirt they done they just want a peaceful life, they will only beef or get into it if it's necessary, sometimes the ones who avoid it are more dangerous cause they let it build up and snap rather than some loud mouth always fronting. I don't believe it's that simple at all, they might THINK your a punk but you could very well not be, if someone is surrounded by a gang of 20 people with knives and guns but they walk away are they a punk? Cause there avoiding that confrontation instead of fighting them all? Not at all. It's about the intentions why you are walking a way. That's a different situation in regards to the neighbourhood bully, that's a highly specific situation not the norm, obviously if you keep taking abuse and not doing anything you could be called a punk, but in this case for instance Jay isn't responding because he's probably got other shyt to do, I'd rather fukk Beyonce and make dope music than trade childish insults with 50 Cent lol, 50 wouldn't even be on my radar, if Nas dissed me that's different cause he's an a true MC, I'd wanna have that confrontation to test skills but with 50 it's just petty, his tactic was to beef with everyone for prono, why fall into that? That means your getting played and used as a pawn.

there are always different perceptions and therefore different realities. in your reality you are the mature person walking away, in their reality, you are a punk. just like somebody who comes home from jail and avoids confrontation thinks that he has grown wiser and learnt to pick his battles, while those around him who haven't been to jail yet will think he has gone soft. both is true, depending on your way of thinking and your environment. you're trying to redefine the term punk when you shouldn't even be bothered by the word because it doesn't apply to your way of thinking.
 

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there are always different perceptions and therefore different realities. in your reality you are the mature person walking away, in their reality, you are a punk. just like somebody who comes home from jail and avoids confrontation thinks that he has grown wiser and learnt to pick his battles, while those around him who haven't been to jail yet will think he has gone soft. both is true, depending on your way of thinking and your environment. you're trying to redefine the term punk when you shouldn't even be bothered by the word because it doesn't apply to your way of thinking.

I understand what your saying, but in that particular case I only see one true reality and one is a misconception. Because if someone put their work in and went one on one or even had serious beef with serious individuals but choose to walk away from a more minor situation I just don't see that as tacking anything away from them. You can't fight or beef with everyone lol. I see where we differ, I don't see the brother coming home from jail as a punk unless he's changed his core principles and beliefs (if they were solid in the first place), I see that as immaturity from the others around him, people get more wise as they grow up, I don't think we should hold everybody to these stereotypes of being punks for trying to act adult. I support labelling people cowards or whatever if they are bytch made in their heart and it shows in how they act, but merely not responding to every single person who says something about you I don't see that as a punk at all. When you say hadn't been to jail, in the sense you say it it implies the one who went to jail gained a sense of maturity in there, so he shouldn't be penalized for growing up, he could still get it in when the time arises but not to just jump into it unnecessary. This is why people get killed, it affects a lot of people, families, partners, all sorts, I think got to assess situations and the positives and negatives off actions instead of mindlessly jumping in 100 percent with everything, most people who do that end up dead, or in jail, but mostly dead. I'm not trying to redefine the term punk, I'm trying to argue against the case of labelling someone a punk incorrectly.
 

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He has an teen son (hardbody), a newborn, and a bun in the oven -- all b*stards! Curtis had better get money to feed those lambs.

--> aq out <--

3 Kids. I just thought 1 older one and 1 with that asian bytch
 

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:pacspit: @ 50. If it weren't for vitamin water, he'd be a broke washed up rapper instead of a rich washed up one.


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Has 50 Cent explained why his album has been pushed back repeatedly for 3 years and why all of his attempts at singles flop?
 
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