55 year old dime says being child free is great!

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Which is all that that should matter really in the grand scheme of things, i mean nikkaz shaming these women would still hit all 4 of those broads if the opportunity arose so it's all just red pill babble. The wall is the wall although granted it's at a much later age then 30 as a lot of the red pill crowd seem to think.
Well, I disagree because the same research also shows that men's sperm in terms of quality and quantity declines dramatically close to the age of 40 and the chances of having a mentally challenged kid increases with fathers past the age of 35 yet there's no concept of men "hitting the wall" in spite of this research.

I think "the wall" has much more to do with looks than fertility or childbearing. Hell, a lot of adults are putting off having kids these days because of high expenses which makes fertility even more irrelevant. A childless 32 year old woman who's in shape and good looking definitely doesn't come off as "hitting the wall" to me in the slightest. Keep in mind too that, in 2023, adults look younger than they have in the past due to less smoking and technology. I've met 30+ year old women(especially Black and Asian) who I swore were still in their 20's.
 

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Well, I disagree because the same research also shows that men's sperm in terms of quality and quantity declines dramatically close to the age of 40 and the chances of having a mentally challenged kid increases with fathers past the age of 35 yet there's no concept of men "hitting the wall" in spite of this research.

I think "the wall" has much more to do with looks than fertility or childbearing. Hell, a lot of adults are putting off having kids these days because of high expenses which makes fertility even more irrelevant. A childless 32 year old woman who's in shape and good looking definitely doesn't come off as "hitting the wall" to me in the slightest. Keep in mind too that, in 2023, adults look younger than they have in the past due to less smoking and technology. I've met 30+ year old women(especially Black and Asian) who I swore were still in their 20's.
Please don’t let them know this. Apparently only women turn to shyt and age. Men don’t have the same issues. They stay virile and handsome forever and ever and ever. No dikk problems, no beer bellies, and no balding( well, I love bald men, so that’s ok). Truth be told, a lot of men have dikk problems as they age, but they ain’t ready for that conversation. Groan away!
 

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:heh: why people in their feelings about this?
It's a common reaction. Any type of "alternative" lifestyle is often met with disdain because people will view it as an attack on their own "normal" way of life.

Granted, a lot of childfree people are too extra and smug with it. Childfree people and parents just need to live their own life and stop trying to tell people what the "best" way to live is.

 

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Please don’t let them know this. Apparently only women turn to shyt and age. Men don’t have the same issues. They stay virile and handsome forever and ever and ever. No dikk problems, no beer bellies, and no balding( well, I love bald men, so that’s ok). Truth be told, a lot of men have dikk problems as they age, but they ain’t ready for that conversation. Groan away!
There's a lot of copium and sour grapes on both sides.

Both men and women can avoid "the wall" if they take good care of themselves and both can "hit the wall" and look like shyt if they fail to do so.

The fertility argument is a double edged sword because that can apply to men too. Sperm centers literally do NOT accept sperm from men over the age of 35 because of the link between fathers past that age and children having autism and other mental illnesses. And that's not even touching on ED, albeit that usually comes later.

I always took "the wall" to mean someone who looked great in their youth or prime then had a dramatic decline in looks as they got older due to not taking care of themselves. That's usually how I see it get used. Sometimes, it'll refer 30+ women getting less attention than 20 something women too which is fair but also gets exaggerated.

But the fertility argument ain't it.
 
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