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But this whole pretentious idea that men are out here doing things to women that women don't like or want..... this is going to spiral downward into a dark, dark hole that present society may never recover from

How is that a pretentious idea though? And as for society going down a dark hole...where the fukk you been? Serial sexual predators getting exposed isn't what' is sending things into a dark place, it's shedding a light on what's always been running in the background. Yeah "not all men" but if you don't wanna be touched, chances are you can say so and more than likely have women respect your physical space from that point forward.

As recent as this year you got women who have been shot and stabbed for not wanting to give a man their number. The notion that someone bigger/stronger than you could at any time decide it's ok to accost you is something that a lot of women just accept as a part of their lives for being born female. So yes...there are men out here doing things to women that women don't like or want. And unlike you, the majority of women have legitimate concern for their physical safety when considering resisting advances from the people that come at them in that manner.
 

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Never have asked for permission. And I refuse to start asking for permission to do such things that are common, it would only break the mood and feel more robotic.

:camby:

Just because something is common doesn't mean it's right. I can give you a run down of a lot of things that are or were common that you might not want to abide by.

A simple 'may I??" before you put your lips on someone else's body isn't going out of your way or fukking up the mood if you say it in the right way.
 

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Just because something is common doesn't mean it's right. I can give you a run down of a lot of things that are or were common that you might not want to abide by.

A simple 'may I??" before you put your lips on someone else's body isn't going out of your way or fukking up the mood if you say it in the right way.

I'll let you do that. I am not going to be out here asking for permission every step of the interaction.
 

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Do that and bytches finna ridicule you for being lame and not spontaneous.

I rather not touch an unfamiliar bytch. Just like you wouldn't go around touching other people's children. How hard is it for you to leave these bytches alone and give them at least three feet? Unless y'all are already fukking there's literally no reason to be overly friendly with a bytch.

Err on the side of caution and don't even go up in these bytch's space - especially if you're a black man.
 
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I'll let you do that. I am not going to be out here asking for permission every step of the interaction.

You're exaggerating the issue.

Nobody is saying tip toe and ask for permission every step of the way. The step before you decide to put your lips on somebody seems like a reasonable point to make sure that it's ok to do so now that you know that not every woman is comfortable with that.
 

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breh no lie, I was out in the street one day and this fat-thick girl (not skinny thick, fat thick) came over to me and unzipped my pants on a public street in broad daylight and started laughing with her friends about this.... and me and her had never really had a conversation before.

I saw her around from time to time, but never talked to her. She walked up to me unzipped my pants and walked away laughing.

Now of course, I don't consider myself a victim from this... but like I said, let's not pretend that chics ain't out here being forceful and aggressive too.







I get what you're saying, breh. I'm getting to the point too where I don't even want to discuss this with women.

If you don't fall in line with the status quo, then they want to start throwing labels at you. It's like how do I tell my FB friend who put that message up.... that well, ya know, there's a flip side to this.

It would be a waste of time. Wish i didn't have to see this stuff, but it's literally everywhere.

One good thing is.... I only see it online. I have yet to talk to a chic in person and she starts talking this "rape culture" foolishness, and that makes me hopeful. Seems to be more of an online culture thing, than anything else.... except from them hard-core feminists, and I don't know any of them in real life so :yeshrug:

You know that online is a safety net for many people. It's convenient and safer to spew nonsense behind a screen or phone than to say shyt in person.

In real life, you will talk about day to day shyt with people. I only see these heavy topics discussed with close friends and maybe significant others. Acquaitances and associates get banal levels of banter.

Just gotta look at online discussions for what it is..entertainment! *shrugs*
 

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:gucci: there are serial sexual predators on both sides. Look at the teachers that's sexing the students. I hear more about female teachers getting caught up than male teachers this day

and I'm one of those ppl who don't really believe that a male high school student is a "victim" per se... but I admit, if I have a teenage son, I wouldn't want him in a position where his teacher is sexing him. It's wrong on so many levels

So before you throw on your cape, why don't you take a min and realize you're one of the folks that I'm talking about. You completely ignore the flip sides of these coins purposely.

Nowhere did I say that it was wrong to expose sexual predators. I said, I would like everyone to be honest about it. Right now, the conversation that's happening is not honest.

You got chics out here talking about a dude put his hand on their hip... okay, he shouldn't have done that cause he don't know you like that but be real and admit that if the dude was someone that you were attracted to, you would have no problem with it. Thats all I'm saying. Stop trying to make it seem like the situation where a dude makes the first move is something that should be attacked and demonized, cause like other brehs in this thread have said... no woman really wants a man to stop making the first move.

They just don't want the first move to be made by a man that they ain't feeling like that. But if they're feeling you, they'll let you make the first move and many moves after that.

You would know that if you weren't a coli virgin. Get off the internet and go socialize, boy. You might learn something about basic human behavior :camby:


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You got the wrong one my nikka, seriously.

`There is no reason to
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around a woman suggesting you make sure it's cool to touch/kiss them. You wanna debate, bytch and moan when there is no real debate to be had. You take highlighting sexual harassment and men having to tweak their behavior because of it as things going into a downward spiral. Something as simple as that has turned into "Yeah that's wrong...but"

Sounds an awful lot like cacs trying to tell me about racism. It ain't about you doggie. If anything take the cue from your friend on FB and start speaking up for yourself when you don't want to be touched without permission.

"bu bu bu but they'll call me a fakkit"

:mjlol:
 

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If you are attractive you can do what you want for the most part. That goes both ways.

The things is normal/ugly brehs getting called creeps and perverts. But when we call out the women who grope is we get attacked from both sides being called fakkits for not wanting mud ducks and shaming women who are “exploring thier sexuality”.
 

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Isn't that one of those things you just have to have a feel for? Like before you touch or initiate something with a chick

Not when a woman tells you out of her mouth that she would rather you ask before you decide to put your lips or your hands on her in a sexual manner. Knowing that some women feel this way and seeing all of these allegations and assault charges should tell you that maybe it's time to switch up how men and women have been communicating thus far.
 

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Times are different. A lot of mix signals from both sides plus with rape culture and entitlement finally boiling over to a point now permission is almost a must. But at the same time it depends on the woman youre dealing with.

The tumblr intellectualsexualist no gender cis term using women are very difficult since they can't choose between their obligation to feminism or just wanting to be love. So they nick pick at every little thing that you. Even if your intentions are genuine with nonsexist views, they will look for something to justify their exit from being emotionally attached to the opposite sex and write a blog about you .

Black Feminist (non white influenced) are moderate at best. They just want to be recognized and acknowledge as a equal instead of a object. They don't care for the debating unless you call them out and they deem you problematic. Long as you don't be on no fukk shyt, have you mind right and life right and let them live their life how THEY want then you good. They will let you slide on some of misogynistic shyt they know a lot of have been conditioned to think like this and will try to help unprogram you to a certain extent because with them they want a black family, they believe in black love, just not at the cost of their individual and freedom. If they can't then they are out. The pro hoe woman also fall into this category also, it's just a phase though. They are younger and more combative, they just want the right to sleep around like us without being judge.


Also you have the "pick mes" They pretend and agree with you over everything just for some love and attention. You can find them in dikk pic groups. Just look good and have a nice body and dikk, You pretty much can do whatever you want to them.

Average Women are the ones that don't even know what CIS means and is out here living life. They don't give a fukk about social justice or gay/trans rights. They just go to work, have a average presence on social media and focus themselves. They have regular standards and just want a man that also works with any fukk shyt in their lives.

I can right more if y'all want
 
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