71% of 17-24 years olds are ineligible to join U.S. Military

[Astroslik]

25% who want to join is a significant amount though

 

[Gritsngravy]

They don't need increased pay since ALL their bills are paid and ain't nothing beating military benefits.

You won't get rich, but you damn sure won't be living paycheck-to-paycheck.

Making service mandatory will have the exact opposite effect, but I'd suggest making it mandatory for criminals/offenders to offset jail/prison sentences.​

I’m just saying to make it more attractive increase pay, not to make people wealthy but an extra couple g’s will make people reconsider

And as far as mandatory service the benefit will be to always have a decent amount of people combat ready for any bullshyt that might go down

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Why does TheColi always get upset at younger people not interested in joining the military?

Those of us who served aren't the ones getting mad, though. Not about that, anyway. Mischaracterizing it, in the other hand, is some punk shyt. If you don't wanna join, don't, but there's no need to lie about it.

It ain't for everybody.​

 

[42 Monks]

there's different versions of loss being discussed for real lol...

for the vast majority, 'loss' means its just not in service for the US anymore. when the army writes something off, more times than not they're getting paid to give it away or getting a bump for no longer having to maintain the shyt. and getting paid to come back around and train others how to use shyt they don't want.

at some point, stereotypes, half assed slogans, and memes gotta stop being a sole source of information on this stuff.

Why does TheColi always get upset at younger people not interested in joining the military?

Why don't y'all get off your fat fukin asses and join, huh? Oh wait, it's because y'all old and blew your chances a long time ago, doing whatever y'all were doing at that age.

Another thing is not everybody is interested in becoming another pawn of the United States military complex and turning a blind eye to the morally bankrupt and unjust actions this government has done to other nations and the citizens who reside in those within the last 20+ years.

the irony is, you'll almost never see military telling people to join here in full seriousness. if someone wants to join? sure - you'll get the pointers and information.

all this extra shyt *always* comes from folks on the outside looking in talking about stuff they heard second or third hand at best

 

[Gritsngravy]

I’m just saying to make it more attractive increase pay, not to make people wealthy but an extra couple g’s will make people reconsider

And as far as mandatory service the benefit will be to always have a decent amount of people combat ready for any bullshyt that might go down

And another thing, remember them stories this year about how dudes not going to college, wanting to go back in time where you could support yourself and a family with a factory job
The military in theory could act as a modern day factory job for them individuals

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I’m just saying to make it more attractive increase pay, not to make people wealthy but an extra couple g’s will make people reconsider

And as far as mandatory service the benefit will be to always have a decent amount of people combat ready for any bullshyt that might go down

1. Okay. They already do that with enlistment bonuses, but I get your point.

2. You'd have platoons/brigades/battalions FULL of people who resent America forcing them into the military. Might have worked in the 50's, but not now. No one trusts the Government.

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[Insensitive]

Honestly the military and the discipline it supposedly teaches could easily be turned into a pure public works program
without having to fly overseas in support of or actively killing people you don't know.
There's literally no reason why they can't take everything that's done in the military (free college, team building skills, retirement etc.)
and make it normal for the entirety of society WITHOUT the need to join the military .

 

[Gritsngravy]

1. Okay. They already do that with enlistment bonuses, but I get your point.

2. You'd have platoons/brigades/battalions FULL of people who resent America forcing them into the military. Might have worked in the 50's, but not now. No one trusts the Government.

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Well there might be a situation where we ain’t got no choice but to fight

 

[Gritsngravy]

Would y’all join if the government said we will give black folks reparations
Even though black folks been lied too before but let’s say it was true y’all fighting

 

[Gritsngravy]

Honestly the military and the discipline it supposedly teaches could easily be turned into a pure public works program
without having to fly overseas in support of or actively killing people you don't know.
There's literally no reason why they can't take everything that's done in the military (free college, team building skills, retirement etc.)
and make it normal for the entirety of society WITHOUT the need to join the military .

I think this is a great idea but the powers that be want rich people and poor people to be educated differently so we would have to change the power structure before something like this is possible

 

[semicko82]

where is this stat coming from?

 

[42 Monks]

Would y’all join if the government said we will give black folks reparations
Even though black folks been lied too before but let’s say it was true y’all fighting

.....i don't think anyone should put their life on hold waiting for someone to do right by them

Honestly the military and the discipline it supposedly teaches could easily be turned into a pure public works program
without having to fly overseas in support of or actively killing people you don't know.
There's literally no reason why they can't take everything that's done in the military (free college, team building skills, retirement etc.)
and make it normal for the entirety of society WITHOUT the need to join the military .

honestly i wish this was the direction the conversation took more often

i've navigated some people towards peacecorps and other public works in the past because honestly.... just a change of location, structure, and engagement can give traction to a lot of people. the totality of an enlistment, even though it rarely comes to it, is simply too much to ask of many people.

also.... folks think that military can be a home to felons and stuff and nah. that was a late 90s/early 2000s thing. that military is gone.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

If you got no direction,want to save money or from a ain't shyt town military could be cool...it also could not be

The 4 years was worth it to me...got my gi bill and other benefits....I'm happy for people who ain't with it as well though.

 

[Big Blue]

That's still pretty high

 

[Primetime21]

Honestly the military and the discipline it supposedly teaches could easily be turned into a pure public works program
without having to fly overseas in support of or actively killing people you don't know.
There's literally no reason why they can't take everything that's done in the military (free college, team building skills, retirement etc.)
and make it normal for the entirety of society WITHOUT the need to join the military .

The majority of service members never see combat