8-6-15 GOP Faux News Debate Thread 8:50pm EST

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I read on another board that Lindsay Graham is just using this as a platform to get a cabinet seat as Secretary of Defense.

Makes sense given his responses.
If his man crush John McCain had won then he would have been given the job but now he has no shot.
 

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I read on another board that Lindsay Graham is just using this as a platform to get a cabinet seat as Secretary of Defense.

Makes sense given his responses.

Most candidates are using this as a platform. Thats more than plausible for Graham but he's hustling backwards right now. He's somehow making himself look dumber than people already thought he was. He shoulda just sat this one out and let his history in congress regarding the military speak for itself and lobby behind the scenes if he wanted to be Secretary of Defense. Hell, Gilmore is being more effective in this debate if he is also aiming for that position.
 

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Most candidates are using this as a platform. Thats more than plausible for Graham but he's hustling backwards right now. He's somehow making himself look dumber than people already thought he was. He shoulda just sat this one out and let his history in congress regarding the military speak for itself and lobby behind the scenes if he wanted to be Secretary of Defense. Hell, Gilmore is being more effective in this debate if he is also aiming for that position.

serioiusly Lindsey took a MAJOR L after this debate. Even his closing argument was depressing
 

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The Winner of the Loser Debate: Jim Gilmore
Runner Up: George Pataki

The Loser of the Loser Debate: Lindsey Graham
Runner Up: Rick Perry

I see it the same way pretty much. I think Gilmore and Pataki both won equally though. Pataki was a better spokesman but both conveyed their points well imo.

Ultimate loser was Graham. Perry, Jindal and Santorum also did poorly. I dont think Fiorina moved the needle for herself one way or another.
 

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Fox News really hyping up Carly Fiorina as being the winner

Yep..and they are starting to intensify the anti-trump spin cycle. fox will probably attack trump low-key via proxy analysis more than the candidates will. they opened the door of an attack on him almost as wide as they opened it for hillary. they better be careful with that because if trump goes independent its an auto-loss for the R's and he said he would go independent if he isnt treated fairly.
 

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How in the holy hell is dude saying with a straight face that Carly Fiorina won this debate?

Its not about what they said. We all know its bullshyt. Its about how it was delivered. She was cool and confidant because she has actually been out practicing and all she had to do was regurgitate her previous statements and talking points. Every answer she had I have heard previously from her, but if you arent a political junkie like most of us she seems smart, collective, and witty.
 

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Fox pushing Carly Fiorina HARD
 

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Eh, I disagree with how you're looking at it. For the moment it's one of the only effective ways to force these guys to pay what they owe given all the loopholes in capital gains, overseas stashes, etc. if we could enforce taxes better I could agree with you

We really aren't that far off on the topic :manny: Id rather them reform the code and crack down on loopholes rather than just keep the tax but :manny:

If they did some effective work to close all the overseas corporate loopholes (Ireland etc) and proposed a .01% financial transactions tax they'd take in the same or more money from essentially the same sources.
 

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How in the holy hell is dude saying with a straight face that Carly Fiorina won this debate?

Fox and their financial interests want to be able to point back at the time they were supporting a woman (on record) if Hillary gets the nomination because it's guaranteed that the eventual Republican candidate will say some terrible, offensive thing that chases off 99.9% of the female vote. They can pull this conversation up, put it back into circulation and try to grab some lady street cred.
 
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