90's Rap misconceptions?

[get these nets]

you say this as if twista was a big star. he was in the same boat as big l.

not sure why twista is mentioned anyway. i dont even recall them rubbing shoulders. is that a typo or some kind of plug?

Twists appeared on a song that broke nationally

"Po Pimp"


Big L never had a song or feature that got burn outside of NY radio and mixtape circuit.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Twists appeared on a song that broke nationally
"Po Pimp"
Big L never had a song or feature that got burn outside of NY radio and mixtape circuit.

thats not even his song. he aint have a hit until 2004.

and truth be told, "po pimp" wasnt really a national hit anyway.
i never heard it on the radio ever.

Big L had 1 album before he passed, and it was 4 Mics at best. The beats were kinda dated by time it dropped and even some of the raps were, to no fault of his own, a lot of it was recorded in 92-93 and it didn't drop til March 1995.

yea, but to be fair, you gotta grade it as a '92-93 album.

if it dropped when it was supposed to, we'd be calling it a 5.

i was gonna do a thread on this a while back but forgot.

Biggest misconception I see some of the younger users have is they look at the 90's as on long era.

as far as rap and fashion etc you have early nineties, mid 90's.. and then up to like 97 was cool and then it slowly went to trash the last few years which turned into the early 2000's. They were all pretty different.

i wouldnt refer to the late '90s/early '00s as trash but i see what youre saying.

funny thing is, the main part of the '90s that younger users gravite to is often the late '90s.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

I'd say this about Yo! and MTV Jams, but Rap City not so much. Rap City (pre-Basement) was playing pretty much anything that was out there, sometimes to a fault

One of the biggest misconceptions is that "back then you had to have lyrical skills/be original to get signed" and shyt along those lines. There was a LOT of wack/subpar nikkas out there. Not only did you not need skills/originality to get signed, you didn't need it to make a hit or get airplay either. There was a fair share of gimmickry, biting, and mediocrity. We don't celebrate any of those MFs today, but if you were there, you know they existed.

I always say there's a reason why songs like "I Used To Love HER", "Paparazzi", "Time's Up", "Come Clean", etc. existed... they were all more or less commentaries on the wack shyt that was going on in hip-hop. It wasn't just ALL dope shyt ALL the time as folks would like to believe.

Stakes Is High by De La Soul is another perfect example commenting on what was going on back then too.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

the idea that outkast was this huge group running chit. they were 2nd tier at best.

and before people call me a hater, im gonna put one of my favorite rappers on blast - the idea that 2pac was a top-tier rapper thru '91-94.

and the idea that pac & biggie were undisputed rulers of rap.
that and people thinking pac & biggie were the top sellers.

 

[Sauce Dab]

Coli dustheads won’t like this thread. Them nikkas make it seem everything in the 90’s was perfect music wise and everything was pure

There’s a big ass thread on here somewhere it may be in the rafters now idk about artists biting somebody else and there were plenty names listed for 90’s artists in that thread

 

[FreshAIG]

thats not even his song. he aint have a hit until 2004.

and truth be told, "po pimp" wasnt really a national hit anyway.
i never heard it on the radio ever.





yea, but to be fair, you gotta grade it as a '92-93 album.

if it dropped when it was supposed to, we'd be calling it a 5.

i was gonna do a thread on this a while back but forgot.





i wouldnt refer to the late '90s/early '00s as trash but i see what youre saying.

funny thing is, the main part of the '90s that younger users gravite to is often the late '90s.

Even grading on the time frame it was recorded, it's not 5 mics. Compared to what was coming out in 92-93, the production isn't standing up to any of the classics from that era (Chronic, Midnight Marauders, 36 Chambers, Doggystyle, Mecca and the Soul Brother, Daily Operation, etc..). I don't even have it being as good as Runaway Slave which to me is around 4/4.5 mics.

 

[JustCKing]

the idea that outkast was this huge group running chit. they were 2nd tier at best.

and before people call me a hater, im gonna put one of my favorite rappers on blast - the idea that 2pac was a top-tier rapper thru '91-94.

and the idea that pac & biggie were undisputed rulers of rap.
that and people thinking pac & biggie were the top sellers.

Who says OutKast ran the 90's? They were still a huge group. By 1999, they had two platinum albums and one double platinum album. There wasn't many groups in the 90's doing that. There were groups who came out the gate moving units and then fizzled out by the close of the 90's. There were groups (The Fugees) who had one successful album and didn't do much after.

Pac was a top seller in 1996 BEFORE dying September 13 of that year.

 

[JustCKing]

and truth be told, "po pimp" wasnt really a national hit anyway.
i never heard it on the radio ever.

False. "Po Pimp" went gold in 1996, was #1 on the rap charts, and #22 on the Pop charts. This was definitely a national hit.

 

[wizworld]

Rappers having more “substance” than this generation. A lot of those 90s rappers had the same money, hoes, and clothes material rappers talk about now. And then there were the super lyrical miracle rappers who spent their whole careers rapping about how good they rapped and thought that made them more righteous than the money, hoes, and clothes rappers.

A lot of 90's rappers still read books and told stories and these rappers DO NOT DO EITHER OF THOSE THINGS. So although they may not have had a higher character, yes they did have more substance.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

thats not even his song. he aint have a hit until 2004.

and truth be told, "po pimp" wasnt really a national hit anyway.
i never heard it on the radio ever.





yea, but to be fair, you gotta grade it as a '92-93 album.

if it dropped when it was supposed to, we'd be calling it a 5.

i was gonna do a thread on this a while back but forgot.





i wouldnt refer to the late '90s/early '00s as trash but i see what youre saying.

funny thing is, the main part of the '90s that younger users gravite to is often the late '90s.

I’m 28 and on a music tip, I tend to gravitate to the early to mid 90’s more. Whereas with TV/movies/cartoons/anime, I’m more into the stuff that came out from ‘93 to ‘99. I liked the fashion from the whole decade but definitely the early 90’s moreso.

 

[JMD]

It Was Written was a huge disappointment was a big misconception. I can’t remember another album that was as big in the streets of NYC than IWW...Mostly media hype from magazine critics that were pushing that notion

 

[JayStarwind]

the idea that outkast was this huge group running chit. they were 2nd tier at best.

and before people call me a hater, im gonna put one of my favorite rappers on blast - the idea that 2pac was a top-tier rapper thru '91-94.

and the idea that pac & biggie were undisputed rulers of rap.
that and people thinking pac & biggie were the top sellers.

I've always thought this
So who would you guys say was on top during their era?

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

It Was Written was a huge disappointment was a big misconception. I can’t remember another album that was as big in the streets of NYC than IWW...Mostly media hype from magazine critics that were pushing that notion

It was GHOST written

 

[28 Gramz]

Jay Z wasnt really factor until his third album.

Most of the gangsta rappers were studio thugs surrounded by real street nikkas.

No Limit put the south on another level not Scarface or Outkast.

 

[Don'tCallMeLuckyB]

Nobody knew jigga when reasonable doubt dropped outside of NYC and nobody even knew he was on the Ha remix let alone a remix

the song that got jigga bubbling especially in the south was Money Ain’t a thang by JD.