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[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Being in the park after dark. Oh my get these criminals off the streets

Come on now, bro, don't play coy. We got a plat thread right now on the front page telling people "how to NOT get killed in Atlanta". Let's not act like there isn't an issue. Obviously the city determined that one of the things leading to crime was people milling about in public places late in the night where there is a higher probability of incident, and they decided to impose restrictions. If that's one of the measures they choose to fight crime, I got no problem with that.

 

[DaHNIC82]

CAC would have shot her

 

[BaggerofTea]

That's wild even giving a ticket for that to begin with

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I will never understand why we keep making our time in police encounters last longer than necessary to our own detriment.

Sis' ego went against the wrong one.

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[Dynamite James]

That's wild even giving a ticket for that to begin with

 

[GilSho]

She should've just complied instead of being hard-headed but there's no way on earth a pig is treating a white woman that very obviously isn't a threat like that. No fukking way.

Black women gotta accept female privilege doesn't always go their way like it does other races.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

She should've just complied instead of being hard-headed but there's no way on earth a pig is treating a white woman that very obviously isn't a threat like that. No fukking way.

Stop the cap.....

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[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I was about to say the cop was wildin until I saw the whole video, and I must say....she brought it on herself. She was out the gate disrespectful, probably because he was a black man... He warned her nicely and she kept on, he flipped the script, and all of a sudden she's all submissive and respectful...calling him Mr.Brookes all softly. But it was too late, the jezebel tried that disrespectful, strong, black, matriarchal woman bs and ended up in cuffs for nothing...coppin pleas

That part took me out, I'm not gonna lie.

She went from to real quick when it got real for her

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

And a logical being can act however they want, this cop should enforce law but with a bit of discretion, which should lead to him properly explaining the situation to her as opposed to escalating it. I have a big problem with his approach because I have seen similar approaches lead to shootings with either suspect or cop dead, when all the cop had to do was explain that it wasn't an admission of guilt, but hey, if they lean towards declining you can get upset and attempt an arrest, I'm sure that will go over with the already combative person that doesn't know why they are being arrested.

Insane, the excuses you make for cops to escalate the situation. In reality, you, the spectator, has problem with the attitude with the suspect, so you decide to live through the ridiculous route this cop took to handling the situation, even though there was a clear chance for de-escalation.

The officer is the arm of the law. It's not his job to tell you "this doesn't mean you're guilty "


If he did that, then when she goes to court, all she has to do is tell the judge "the officer said he gave me this but it doesn't mean I'm guilty. Based on that, you should throw this out."


Do yall be thinking before coming up with these scenarios?

 

[Reflected]

The officer is the arm of the law. It's not his job to tell you "this doesn't mean you're guilty "


If he did that, then when she goes to court, all she has to do is tell the judge "the officer said he gave me this but it doesn't mean I'm guilty. Based on that, you should throw this out."

Do yall be thinking before coming up with these scenarios?

I mean, the ticket doesn't mean she is guilty, so I don't see how that would impact the case, we can @ a lawyer but I would bet on referencing the cop saying "it isn't an admission of guilt" wouldn't clear the person of the ticket. For argument sake we can throw it out, he doesn't have to admit that, I still think it a silly approach in general for law enforcement to act in that manner but I digress on that point.

But the ticket is an agreement to show up in court, it's the reason why he can hold her in the first place because the holding is just for the purpose of a signature/agreement. The situation can still be de-escalated by simply informing her that the ticket comes with the agreement to show to court and that upon refusal he would have to arrest her. Seems simple, and we most likely bypass the roughhousing and anything that can come from that. My primary issue is that, the option to de-escalate is there, but people are essentially championing the cop for not taking that route and instead going for the arrest all because of an attitude. This approach bleeds into so many other notable cases, and I doubt people would be justifying a similar approach for those. We need to be promoting situations where the option to de-escalate is taken over escalation.

 

[Wiseborn]

Black people don't like to be Disciplined by other Black people

That's what it was had it been a white cop she would've signed and left.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I mean, the ticket doesn't mean she is guilty, so I don't see how that would impact the case, we can @ a lawyer but I would bet on referencing the cop saying "it isn't an admission of guilt" wouldn't clear the person of the ticket. For argument sake we can throw it out, he doesn't have to admit that, I still think it a silly approach in general for law enforcement to act in that manner but I digress on that point.

But the ticket is an agreement to show up in court, it's the reason why he can hold her in the first place because the holding is just for the purpose of a signature/agreement. The situation can still be de-escalated by simply informing her that the ticket comes with the agreement to show to court and that upon refusal he would have to arrest her. Seems simple, and we most likely bypass the roughhousing and anything that can come from that. My primary issue is that, the option to de-escalate is there, but people are essentially championing the cop for not taking that route and instead going for the arrest all because of an attitude. This approach bleeds into so many other notable cases, and I doubt people would be justifying a similar approach for those. We need to be promoting situations where the option to de-escalate is taken over escalation.

My point is the cop is the law. He's not supposed to help you get out of breaking the law. The cop ain't supposed to be trying to help you. He's on one side, you're on the other. It's the complete antithesis of policing to do what you're suggesting. As I said, all she has to do is tell the judge what he told her in your scenario and not only does she get a get out of jail free card, but folks at his job will be looking at him wondering what the hell is going on.

In this situation, the cop did what he was supposed to do. He gave warning after warning after warning and she didn't listen. He told her he would have to arrest her if she didn't sign. She didn't sign. So he moved to arrest her. His behavior was perfect in this scenario, even though she acted an ass from the very beginning.

 

[JordanwiththeWiz]

The being in the park after close is normal stuff people like to take prostitutes in those parking lots late night. Typical that’s what you see in law enforcement if it’s just one person usually that’s a homeless person sleep and if it’s two people normally that’s a sex trade and people fukking. Far as people saying he should’ve gave them a warning that’s the cop’s discretion. It’s a not requirement the way the lady had her arms folded up leaning against the car. You could tell it wasn’t the warmest of welcomes. They probably was mad, thinking the cop was fukking with them for no reason. I understand the frustration. At the end of the day it’s a citation whether it’s right or wrong you gotta fight that in court.

 

[Reflected]

My point is the cop is the law. He's not supposed to help you get out of breaking the law. The cop ain't supposed to be trying to help you. He's on one side, you're on the other. It's the complete antithesis of policing to do what you're suggesting. As I said, all she has to do is tell the judge what he told her in your scenario and not only does she get a get out of jail free card, but folks at his job will be looking at him wondering what the hell is going on.

In this situation, the cop did what he was supposed to do. He gave warning after warning after warning and she didn't listen. He told her he would have to arrest her if she didn't sign. She didn't sign. So he moved to arrest her. His behavior was perfect in this scenario, even though she acted an ass from the very beginning.

Going to have to agree to disagree. I think the option for de-escalation is clear and should be taken in the situation. Like I said, I have seen that same scenario lead to shootings. And if I'm the cop in the situation, personally, I'm informing the person of what the ticket means and what will happen if they refuse to sign it, as I think this reduces the probability of either one of us being harmed, and I should note, I wouldn't stretch that to avoiding the ticket entirely, the ticket should still be handed out in response to the violation (there are arguments that be had here though). I can flush that position out further but I think you should get my point there.

Also, that thing you pegged me for earlier (the bolded), I'm not a lawyer but I don't see how referencing the cop stating that the ticket isn't an admission of guilt would get you out of a ticket and that's simply because the ticket isn't an admission of guilt. You would agree, right?

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And further, yeah, I'm aware of the technical position of law enforcement, in reference to that, and I'm pretty sure my previous language reflects that, I'm arguing for what we should want out of law enforcement. So I would rather law enforcement de-escalate when possible, assuming no major violation of the law, but I'm perfectly aware most cops are going to take advantage of your lack of knowledge of the law.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

I stopped the video when he got the cuffs out and ole girl moved her arm so he couldn't

Maybe she panicked which explains her resisting the handcuffs.

You can't really judge too harshly UNLESS you've been in handcuffs before. Yall don't know the frustration of hearing "You are under arrest hands behind your back ".








Regardless when the cops get them.cuffs out you gotta comply whether or not you're innocent is pointless at that point.

When them pigs do the "hands behind your back" it's a wrap and it's best to comply..unless you want the smoke.




It's like life flashes before you when they do the "hands behind your back".....you know you're fukked and anything other than compliance will end up.bad after that point.