"95 motherfukkaz, ready to die motherfukkaz"

[FunkDoc1112]

Yall not sick of talking about this?

 

[-Quikness-]

it’s all good
we been going back-and-forth with these 2 , for a long time and it’s always been civil I am always believe people can have a discussion dialogue debate, whatever you wanna call it and disagree, and still keep it respectable at the end of the day

Now, with that said, if you ask a completely unbiased individual and lay out everything on the table there’s absolutely no way biggie and puff will be blamed for damn near anything that occurred …….. and that’s just the truth

*** if pac thought, biggie and puff had something to do with it …. and then was told by several official street nikkaz that wasn’t true at all …. and then tells pac the exact person who set him up with a personal message for going to war with him ….. and according to prodigy, pac saying well, since I named biggie puff I’m going to keep that out there for fame and fortune and turn this into a media marketing promotion to sell records …… there after being released from jail, and doing an interview with sway, claiming nikkaz in jail told him that biggies homeboy shot me - when we know that was the fukking complete opposite and a flat out fukking lie - only comes full circle to prodigy‘s claim of (( fame and fortune / media marketing promotion to sell records )) 100% legit

I mean like real talk the biggest pac fan on the planet - cannot defend this ……… It is what it is

No doubt, bro. It's always respectful and grown when we debate this shyt. I do agree pretty much with what you're saying, only way I'll side with Pac was if puff did have some prior knowledge and was being a snake, which I believe to be true. But I could be wrong, of course.

I do think if Pac didn't die then him and BIG would've patched things up and squashed their beef, the outcome would've been beautiful not to mention the songs they could've made together, but that's all in another reality

 

[Bigsuk]

No doubt, bro. It's always respectful and grown when we debate this shyt. I do agree pretty much with what you're saying, only way I'll side with Pac was if puff did have some prior knowledge and was being a snake, which I believe to be true. But I could be wrong, of course.

I do think if Pac didn't die then him and BIG would've patched things up and squashed their beef, the outcome would've been beautiful not to mention the songs they could've made together, but that's all in another reality

Naaa …. Pac did too much damage for them to be all homies homies again … talking about fukking his wife then insinuated he was apart of quad indirectly or directly … when pac died I’ve always wondered how biggie truly felt .. part of me thinks biggie was sad the way it ended for his relationship with pac n that he died but part of me thinks he was glad because while pac was alive he was like a dog with a bone and wouldn’t give it a rest …..truth be told pac caused a lot of friction during that time before his death …. N if he didn’t get killed sooner or later he was gona have a hard time explaining why he was doing the things he was doing n had a hard time building bridges he burnt but back to biggie I highly doubt him and pac was gona be homies like they were in 94 before quad …not only the damage pac done n said the fact you have suge in the background and puffy in the background and them 2 were never going to be cool again after big Jake got killed ….

 

[mcellas]

 

[-Quikness-]

Naaa …. Pac did too much damage for them to be all homies homies again … talking about fukking his wife then insinuated he was apart of quad indirectly or directly … when pac died I’ve always wondered how biggie truly felt .. part of me thinks biggie was sad the way it ended for his relationship with pac n that he died but part of me thinks he was glad because while pac was alive he was like a dog with a bone and wouldn’t give it a rest …..truth be told pac caused a lot of friction during that time before his death …. N if he didn’t get killed sooner or later he was gona have a hard time explaining why he was doing the things he was doing n had a hard time building bridges he burnt but back to biggie I highly doubt him and pac was gona be homies like they were in 94 before quad …not only the damage pac done n said the fact you have suge in the background and puffy in the background and them 2 were never going to be cool again after big Jake got killed ….

I hear you but at the same time, I think people can grow and mature and shyt can get squashed.
Regarding how BIG truly felt, long kiss says it all for me .. he dissed the fukk out of Pac after Pac died. Pretty sure he hated him after all that had been said.
But I still think they could've squashed it, time can do strange things. Imagine Pac not fukking with Deathrow and BIG not fukking with puff .. 15 years later the situation could've changed, think Pac woulda had to come out and publicly apologise to BIG tho

 

[Bigsuk]

I hear you but at the same time, I think people can grow and mature and shyt can get squashed.
Regarding how BIG truly felt, long kiss says it all for me .. he dissed the fukk out of Pac after Pac died. Pretty sure he hated him after all that had been said.
But I still think they could've squashed it, time can do strange things. Imagine Pac not fukking with Deathrow and BIG not fukking with puff .. 15 years later the situation could've changed, think Pac woulda had to come out and publicly apologise to BIG tho

Maybe …. pac had too much of an ego to publicly say he was wrong or sorry to big … especially after putting so much heat on big …. Had pac done that he would have a lot of people questioning his credibility and been labelled a liar for running with a false narrative… he would have a tough time afterwards

 

[-Quikness-]

Maybe …. pac had too much of an ego to publicly say he was wrong or sorry to big … especially after putting so much heat on big …. Had pac done that he would have a lot of people questioning his credibility and been labelled a liar for running with a false narrative… he would have a tough time afterwards

I still don't run with the narrative Pac lied tho, I believe he thought all those dudes was out to get him and regardless what anyone says hit 'em up was in response to who shot ya, so it was 1-1 on wax, he just took bigs head off with the song and obv went too hard. If he was to be a man and say to big look, I was misinformed by such and such, then you dropped who shot ya .. etc .. both them dudes would have been damn near into their 50s now, time can heal petty shyt

If only tho

 

[seemorecizzy]

Let me guess, this wasn't about Pac either?

lmao
this verse is clearly about faith
yall jumpin to conclusions that make no sense

 

[-Quikness-]

Disciplined for what? I’m not that familiar w/ all the details

I believe it relates back to Pac running his mouth to henchmen, if I'm not mistaken he's alleged to have been talking shyt to henchmen even on his way to quad about having his money ready for the lil shawn track he was about to get on, also the shyt was brewing with the rape case and Haitian jack also, dude wasn't on good terms with the people he was caught up with

 

[Bigsuk]

I still don't run with the narrative Pac lied tho, I believe he thought all those dudes was out to get him and regardless what anyone says hit 'em up was in response to who shot ya, so it was 1-1 on wax, he just took bigs head off with the song and obv went too hard. If he was to be a man and say to big look, I was misinformed by such and such, then you dropped who shot ya .. etc .. both them dudes would have been damn near into their 50s now, time can heal petty shyt

If only tho

He did run with a lie … majesty from live squad and homicide were on queensflip and said e money bags and Nickles told pac to his face In prison that biggie n them had nothing to do with the set up and had no prior knowledge… yet pac came out of prison running with that same narrative after he was told by official street dudes big had nothing what so ever or had any knowledge… that right there is the lie … pac was wrong simple as that … it’s been 29 years since quad happened and if there was any evidence biggie knew it would have came out by now …there is not 1 ov of evidence biggie had any knowledge like pac was claiming ranting on though out 96 He was wrong my guy pac was a great talker charismatic as hell but he was abit of a manipulator he had the masses believing anything he said and you obviously seem like one who believes alot of what he said … like I said before I truly believe had pac survived a few years longer … the holes in his story would have came to light and he would be doing some backpedaling because his credibility would be questioned hence making him look like he’s been lying …. Only reason he never got grilled while he was alive is cause he shielded himself with the likes of suge n co … like I said pac was a great artist but he wouldn’t be looked at in same light had he lived longer cause people would start looking at him like a lied and scape goated big to save face

 

[-Quikness-]

He did run with a lie … majesty from live squad and homicide were on queensflip and said e money bags and Nickles told pac to his face In prison that biggie n them had nothing to do with the set up and had no prior knowledge… yet pac came out of prison running with that same narrative after he was told by official street dudes big had nothing what so ever or had any knowledge… that right there is the lie … pac was wrong simple as that … it’s been 29 years since quad happened and if there was any evidence biggie knew it would have came out by now …there is not 1 ov of evidence biggie had any knowledge like pac was claiming ranting on though out 96 He was wrong my guy pac was a great talker charismatic as hell but he was abit of a manipulator he had the masses believing anything he said and you obviously seem like one who believes alot of what he said … like I said before I truly believe had pac survived a few years longer … the holes in his story would have came to light and he would be doing some backpedaling because his credibility would be questioned hence making him look like he’s been lying …. Only reason he never got grilled while he was alive is cause he shielded himself with the likes of suge n co … like I said pac was a great artist but he wouldn’t be looked at in same light had he lived longer cause people would start looking at him like a lied and scape goated big to save face

that's their story tho, east coast dudes all sticking to the same script means Jack shyt to a guy that think a group of people hating on him. just like they saying he only got shot once and it was by his own gat is bullshyt, that narrative is laughable and it's an agenda against Pac. Numerous like spice one, napoleon, Reggie, have all said he got shot 5 times, plus there's documents to prove it but yet there's still a section of people that wanna say he only shot him self once

Oh and dude, let's not get it twisted Pac made it clear on against all odds who shot him and the while nine, he knew biggie didn't set him up, we all know he didn't. I do believe he thought puff had some kinda knowledge, he dissed biggie on wax because of who shot ya

Shyt, this shyt is draining

 

[Bigsuk]

that's their story tho, east coast dudes all sticking to the same script means Jack shyt to a guy that think a group of people hating on him. just like they saying he only got shot once and it was by his own gat is bullshyt, that narrative is laughable and it's an agenda against Pac. Numerous like spice one, napoleon, Reggie, have all said he got shot 5 times, plus there's documents to prove it but yet there's still a section of people that wanna say he only shot him self once

Oh and dude, let's not get it twisted Pac made it clear on against all odds who shot him and the while nine, he knew biggie didn't set him up, we all know he didn't. I do believe he thought puff had some kinda knowledge, he dissed biggie on wax because of who shot ya

Shyt, this shyt is draining

I wasn’t talking about how many times he was shot …..and you’re wrong there … not only did he say puffy had prior knowledge he said biggie had prior knowledge aswell to sway in his interview and that’s the dam reason he was going at biggie in the first place … by the way … I spoke to zayd who has a baby with pacs sister and who was there the night quad happened and I asked him personally why pac was going at big and if big had anything to do with it or had any knowledge …. He told me himself pac knew very little and was just assuming things without any evidence… again pac was wrong end of !!! …..like William lasane tupacs cousin who was been doing interviews with art the dialogue recently .. saying king tut shot tupac at quad … and that’s false aswell .. king tut never shot pac, was never apart of the A-team and wasn’t even at qaud studios that night …. Another false misconception tupac his cousin and many others believe…..

 

[Bigsuk]

@-Quikness- …. I’ve said this numerous times … pac was saving face about the whole quad studio shooting and how he handled the situation afterwards …. He knew big had no involvement either directly or indirectly to do with quad yet came out of prison running with that narrative and you and nobody else can explain or justify why he did that … and not once before he died did he clear that up …..again this is old stuff but every once in a while it’s brought up …pac did some real shyt while he was alive but he also did some phony sus shyt and quad and how he turned his robbery /shooting into this massive conspiracy like biggie and alot of the east coast nikkas were out to get him is one of them ….. when in reality all it was was a great rapper with a huge mouth who thought he could disrespect a actul gangster aka henchman and got disciplined for it nothing else nothing more ….

 

[-Quikness-]

@Bigsuk see now you saying Pac was assuming things without no evidence, that's a lot different than flat out lying like you said before .. if he's assuming shyt it's because he's incarcerated for something he didn't do, hearing shyt on the radio like a diss record for him, how you think he's gonna act when he hears who shot ya? Everybody who wants to argue this shyt won't say yeah puff and BIG brought heat on themselves too, it's always Pac who was the one in the wrong, them dudes asked for the drama too.

And I could never respect a man or crew that couldn't name the person they dissing, but wait till they die and release something like long kiss

That's straight bytch made shyt and gets no respect from me

 

[Cladyclad]

@Bigsuk see now you saying Pac was assuming things without no evidence, that's a lot different than flat out lying like you said before .. if he's assuming shyt it's because he's incarcerated for something he didn't do, hearing shyt on the radio like a diss record for him, how you think he's gonna act when he hears who shot ya? Everybody who wants to argue this shyt won't say yeah puff and BIG brought heat on themselves too, it's always Pac who was the one in the wrong, them dudes asked for the drama too.

And I could never respect a man or crew that couldn't name the person they dissing, but wait till they die and release something like long kiss

That's straight bytch made shyt and gets no respect from me

But y’all say Big tried to get DPG killed

shouldnt That be enough lol