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It was crazy how lopsided that vote was against unionization. I think read that there will be another vote because Amazon did some shady shyt leading up to the vote.
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i think they voted yesterday too and it was much closer, but still lost. it was just a coincidence, wasn't a campaign run together or anything.

amazon definitely can run the bully game a lot easier down there than they can in NY, so i'm not surprised.
 
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im confused never been in a union

why would the workers vote against their interests? why is this the first one in the united states? why did this take so long ?
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This whole event is serendipitous for me because the company I work at and the Union I'm in just had an interesting contract renegotiation process recently.

So many people in my Union, particularly the ones in similar range of years in it, have expressed discontent and disappointment with our Union/new contract. The point we all ended up coming back to, though, is that we'd rather be in a Union than not.

Like with any grouping, there's often disagreement about how to go about business, as well as a fear that representatives don't always operate in your particular best interests. And while things are done in a democratic fashion, there's always concerns of outside influences being corruptive on leadership and influencing decisions. Not to mention the fact that the working week schedule makes it difficult for consistency with regards to engagement with the Union and it's decisions.

One of the reasons I left a previous employer is for the opportunity to be apart of a Union. I was having a discussion just a couple days ago with a co worker about a dispute they were having with company management. It ended up circling back to the point of "you're in a Union. They (management) ain't gonna do shyt to you :yeshrug:". The confidence in knowing you're protected by an apparatus that is willing to fight for you, the worker, has been worth it's weight. The company doesn't particularly care for that arrangement, so you know it's good.
 
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KneeGrow. said:
This whole event is serendipitous for me because the company I work at and the Union I'm in just had an interesting contract renegotiation process recently.

So many people in my Union, particularly the ones in similar range of years in it, have expressed discontent and disappointment with our Union/new contract. The point we all ended up coming back to, though, is that we'd rather be in a Union than not.

Like with any grouping, there's often disagreement about how to go about business, as well as a fear that representatives don't always operate in your particular best interests. And while things are done in a democratic fashion, there's always concerns of outside influences being corruptive on leadership and influencing decisions. Not to mention the fact that the working week schedule makes it difficult for consistency with regards to engagement with the Union and it's decisions.

One of the reasons I left a previous employer is for the opportunity to be apart of a Union. I was having a discussion just a couple days ago with a co worker about a dispute they were having with company management. It ended up circling back to the point of "you're in a Union. They (management) ain't gonna do shyt to you :yeshrug:". The confidence in knowing you're protected by an apparatus that is willing to fight for you, the worker, has been worth it's weight. The company doesn't particularly care for that arrangement, so you know it's good.
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A lot depends on who the union stewards are and how effective leadership is and how effective the planning and demanding is…if not done well union dues become pointless financial responsibilities for the employees…..we’ll see how this goes
 
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it's a case by case basis. like for example where he works he was trying to unionize based of the working conditions in the warehouse at the start of the pandemic and the lack of a give a fukk about safety for employees as long as the packages get there on time.

so i'm not sure what lies amazon spun there, their employees probably have some kind of benefits, limited benefits, but still better than your average job benefits, they probably said "oh well if you unionize these benefits will have to be agreed upon and they might become too expensive and go away"

in california, there was a big deal with uber drivers/other app drivers where they tried to unionize (actually wasn't even unionize it was become recognized as employees, rather than independent contractors which comes with a certain amount of requirements on the employers) and it lost because they pretty much told them "oh your job might become too expensive to exist and the company might leave"

it's all scare tactics at the end of the day and they can't come out right and say it because it's illegal to fire someone for trying to unionize in most states (could be all, i'm no expert), that's why his case could have just got him paid, but instead... he actually got them a union.

corporations spend a lot of money to convince people unions are bad for them though, which should tell you if they're spending this much money, they union is good for you and bad for them long term. they got the money to think long term, a lot of people thinking about right now, next week though, that's how we are paid, that's how they keep you on their tit for more milk. as long as they have us living check to check and one financial crisis to another, they got somebody scared of their threats. the system has pretty much become more and more design friendly to smash out unions over the years as wages have stagnated and people are desperate.
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This. I used to work for Sony at a plant making rear projection screens back in the day. Some guys tried to organize a union. Sony spent real money spreading misinformation and straight up lies. They had their own spies infiltrate the group of people trying to start the union feeding them info. They spammed commercials on local tv. They had billboards, radio ads. Basically all media you can think of and Sony prevailed.


It was disgusting to watch
 
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Speak your mind breh :mjgrin:




It kinda is, only because the "Squad" has been portrayed as "for the people" since their inception.



Anyone who questioned that narrative was told you were a misogynist or "just give them time, you'll see."


Most notable thing I've heard is that Omar chick leaving her Arab husband to get a white one :wow:

From AOC letting Pelosi make her cry to this, just shows how weak she truly is :wow:
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There are so many pols that are flat out against this, and absolutely HATE the American worker, the middle and lower class, unionization, etc…and of course the squad are the folks that most people have the energy to attack. We suck as a country, we are so vulnerable to the culture wars.
 
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And how long before Amazon comes out saying that need to raise shipping costs and prime despite making unprecedented profits, and blaming it on this. And 95% of the mouth breathers in this country, including on here, will go along with that bullshyt and call the workers lazy instead of board members greedy!
 
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