A Discredited Vaccine Study’s Continuing Impact on Public Health
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ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
I'm actually fine with this. Not vaccinating your kids is nature's way of weeding out stupidity.
I don't have children, but if I do they'll be vaccinated the same way I will. All my little cousins have been vaccinated and are growing up just fine. There has to be more to it than simply the vaccines. And in that case, I'm fine with us examining the whole process and whether all of them should be given at once or spread out over time or whether there is something in a certain batch that has caused autism in some kids or whatever. I'm fine with that.
What I'm not fine with, is the reignition of potentially dangerous diseases based on some quacks already disputed papers, and because some stupid upper middle class white folks with too much time on their hands and not enough farts to sip out of wine glasses, believe that vaccines are evil.
I don't have children, but if I do they'll be vaccinated the same way I will. All my little cousins have been vaccinated and are growing up just fine. There has to be more to it than simply the vaccines. And in that case, I'm fine with us examining the whole process and whether all of them should be given at once or spread out over time or whether there is something in a certain batch that has caused autism in some kids or whatever. I'm fine with that.
What I'm not fine with, is the reignition of potentially dangerous diseases based on some quacks already disputed papers, and because some stupid upper middle class white folks with too much time on their hands and not enough farts to sip out of wine glasses, believe that vaccines are evil.
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doesn't work like that
people with compromised immune systems cannot fight the virus....it's not just a bunch of pro-disease anti-vaxxxer catching measles
two completely different situations
what state are you from?
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Aight cool then...in those cases yeah then people need options or something of that nature
But when your kid comes out perfectly fine and you just up and choose not to vaccinate them?
Aight cool then...in those cases yeah then people need options or something of that nature
But when your kid comes out perfectly fine and you just up and choose not to vaccinate them?
trust me I'm right there with you
but also realize religious exemptions will always prevent kids from being vaccinated
those pro-disease/anti-vaccine folks are hard headed. they mean well, but they're so misguided.
superunknown23
Superstar
Is that why republicans are tap-dancing on this issue now?
Is that why republicans are tap-dancing on this issue now?
no seriously, in california this is a left wing thing
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Is that why republicans are tap-dancing on this issue now?
An majority of these anti-vax people are leftists. I didn't say all anti-vaxxers, I said most. There are entire flocks of hippies and soccer moms who believe in this shyt.
superunknown23
Superstar
The vaccination controversy is a twist on an old problem for the Republican Party: how to approach matters that have largely been settled among scientists but are not widely accepted by conservatives.
It is a dance Republican candidates often do when they hedge their answers about whether evolution should be taught in schools. It is what makes the fight over global warming such a liability for their party, and what led last year to a widely criticized response to the Ebola scare.
As concern spread about an Ebola outbreak in the United States, physicians criticized Republican lawmakers — including Mr. Christie — who called forstrict quarantines of people who may have been exposed to the virus. In some cases, Republicans proposed banning people who had been to the hardest-hit West African countries from entering the United States, even though public health officials warned that would only make it more difficult to stop Ebola’s spread.
On climate change, the party has struggled with how to position itself, with some Republicans inviting mockery for questioning the established science that human activity is contributing to rising temperatures and sea levels.
There is evidence that vaccinations have become more of a political issue in recent years. Pew Research Center polls show that in 2009, 71 percent of both Republicans and Democrats favored requiring the vaccination of children. Five years later, Democratic support had grown to 76 percent, but Republican support had fallen to 65 percent.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/03/u...n-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
So you're arguing something that TUH isn't. That's why we brought up Bill Maher:
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...tion-rates-are-as-low-as-south-sudans/380252/
What you're arguing has to do with political posturing.
Rand Paul and Christie are trying to secure votes. If Obama said don't vaccinate, they would've said vaccinate. Both of them had their families vaccinated. They're just selling their souls for a 2016 loss.
Bernie Madoff
Banned
I'm just saying lets not blindly act like the government is to be 100% trusted when it comes to injecting people with substances.. Do your own research, make your own choices..
the government isn't injecting people
private doctors are
Edit: What state do you live in?
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88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
yeah because polio and a number of vaccinated against diseases were eradicated by themselves and only made a resurgence when and where populations of people aren't vaccinatedAllowing people to opt out of vaccinations, is a cost I'm willing to pay in order to move towards ending the drug war
#priorities
"I think it is hypocritical for very wealthy white people who have all the resources to evade the drug laws to say, 'Oh well.'" -Rand paul
That was a really, really excellent way of setting up a false argument and then shooting it down. Props.Why not just endorse a progressive candidate that wants to end the drug war?
Is it because you actually agree with Paul on vaccines?
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