none of them do, you dont need a camera to access apps or call anyone.
Show me a phone in which you can download apps and surf the web, but it doesn't have a camera on it.

none of them do, you dont need a camera to access apps or call anyone.

You already lost. You said they were giving a free game out the first month, and that's already been proven false![]()
imma be doing the jig when you get IP banned

exactly. this smooth dude shyts on people calling them stans without realizing he is an xbot stan..Maybe because you're attacking "sony stans" making it seem like something is wrong with them for their preference while tearing down PS4 and propping up XB1. You're doing EVERYTHING you accuse "sony stans" of doing to the 10th power. Its like a KKK member complaining about reverse racism.
You nikkas republican as fukk.
You already lost. You said they were giving a free game out the first month, and that's already been proven false![]()
now i see why you're trying to argue the semantics of rather drive club could be considered a game or not. in which case:"Yes, the PS Plus version will be the exact same as the full version, except that it may be missing a few assets, such as cars or tracks, that will be found in the full version," Evolution said.

neogaf.com.Ok what Im I than, maybe we have different definitions to what a gamer is?
now i see why you're trying to argue the semantics of rather drive club could be considered a game or not. in which case:
still sounds like a free game to me and not a demo. however, wont even go there. PSN+ will bless it with more than 1 free game![]()

neogaf.com.
go there and study up, junior..go bring to shyt to a place where people study gaming, gaming information religiously...you are extremely lacked in information about gaming to believe that Sony brings nothing to the table or have not released any info about their console..Sony release clear words and stats when you do..microsoft just beats around the bushes..you might be the most uninformed stan i have ever came across..
oh yeah..people on here have jobs and lives too..youre not the only one..we just look\ into facts while still having lives..youre nothing special..
http://asia.cnet.com/roundup-android-smartphones-without-cameras-62219986.htmShow me a phone in which you can download apps and surf the web, but it doesn't have a camera on it.![]()

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@ hating on sony using driveclub when M$ is shipping an incomplete forza disc w/ no weather or night racing.i'm not the one trying to reduce free games to just demos, you and smooth are.
Then you consider Killer instinct a full game
http://asia.cnet.com/roundup-android-smartphones-without-cameras-62219986.htm
according to google, some ino phone was cameraless and running ICS. you dont NEED a camera to access apps and surf the web breh
they were sellin 4S's in asia with the camera removed (maybe they were on to something)
you can physically remove the cameras from smartphones and they'll still work (unlike the sbox)
@ hating on sony using driveclub when M$ is shipping an incomplete forza disc w/ no weather or night racing.

I'll ask again. Do you consider killer insinct a full game?i'm not the one trying to reduce free games to just demos, you and smooth are.
I'll ask again. Do you consider killer insinct a full game?
So if the free version of killer insinct is a full game. Then what's the retail version, a "fuller" game?depends, can you play the game from start to finish? if so, it's a full game. if they take away some tracks and cars from driveclub, is
it still not a game?
lets take the analogy else where. there's a fully loaded mercedes, heated seats, camera, navigation, mini-fridge in the glovebox. then there's a base model mercedes, no heated seats, camera, gps, etc etc, is it still not car?