A Legacy Examined: Mike Shanahan

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1. Assuming the end is coming in Washington, Shanahan had his chance with three different organizations and failed with two.

It speaks to Shanahan’s chutzpah that after he half-sabotaged his career by crashing and burning for Al Davis and the Raiders as a youngster, he'd turn to Dan Snyder for his third act.

Shanahan clashed with Davis and didn’t make it halfway through Year 2 (fired at 1-3 after a 7-9 rookie year); he didn’t get another head job until 1995 with Denver.

Then, after the run in Denver ended, he thought it’d be a good idea how older, wiser Shanny did with an overbearing owner. The answer, generally, was that he did poorly, with three bad seasons in the four. If things unfold as NFL insiders suspect and Shanahan leaves Washington, it will be a significantly worse run than HOFer Joe Gibbs, who had two playoff runs and two washouts in his four years.

Do you blame Shanahan for struggling under coach-killing owners? Maybe not. But compare that to Bill Parcells, who was an unqualified success in all four NFL stops – or even to Chuck Knox, who won wherever he went (and has the same lifetime winning percentage as Shanahan).

Or, compare him to George Seifert, who only won when he had the big talent. Don’t forget, Shanahan inherited a team that had been to three Super Bowls, just as Seifert did, and won two, as Seifert did.


2. In Shanahan’s 18 non-title seasons, he won a total of one playoff game.

That’s a pretty big statement, and one that makes you rethink the guy’s whole career.

In 14 seasons after Elway, his teams have only been legitimate title contenders once – in 2005, when they had home-field advantage in the AFC title game,

Are those two strikes enough to keep Shanahan out of the Hall of Fame if the 61-year-old’s head coaching career were to be over this year?

Could be.

Consider this: if we remove the two Super Bowl seasons, and then compare Shanahan’s career to that of the much-maligned Norv Turner, here’s what we find:

SHANAHAN/Turner
Reg. season win %.529/483
Made the playoffs 33%-27%
Playoff record1-6/4-4

Does this make you respect Turner more or Shanahan less? Likely, it puts you somewhere in the middle, but it doesn’t do much for Shanahan. If the bulk of Shanahan’s career was a doppelganger for Turner’s (including similar stops working for Davis and Snyder), you have to wonder if the two rings haven’t been a bit blinding.

The comparison is even worse for Shanahan with a guy like Marty Schottenheimer, whose head coaching career was unquestionably better than Shanahan’s (minus the rings):

SHANAHAN/Marty
Reg. season win %.529/.613
Playoff teams33%-61%
Playoff record1-6/5-13

You forget how impressive Schottenheimer was, in four cities; his playoff failures erased his regular-season greatness. It seems like Shanahan’s success also acted as an eraser, wiping out the whispers that probably should have been following him for the last 15 years.

Other great coaches have had first or third acts that weren’t great. But few were as poor as Shanahan’s in Oakland and Washington, and while the sandwich in between was spectacular, it was also fairly brief – Shanahan’s Broncos weren’t a dynasty, they were a two-year supernova that left pale imitations on the retina.

His playoff win percentage is 31st all time, his regular-season percentage 52nd all time. He just doesn’t stack up to the greats by raw math, unless the only number that counts is “2.”

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/legacy-examined-mike-shanahan-mastermind/27331/
 

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I thought this thread was gonna be about the potent ether dropped in this Hogs Haven article.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/12/9/5191564/must-read-mike-shanahans-brilliant-last-act-by-kc-clyburn

I took some parts out because the article a little long.

If you listened to the post game shows today, you wouldn't know that Mike Shanahan has led his team to a 3-10 record. You wouldn't know that his record as Redskins head coach is 24-37. You wouldn't know that his roster, as constructed, is poor to put nicely and downright terrible and embarrassing to be blunt and honest.

You won't know that his coaching staff is a mess. That the only reason defensive coordinator Jim Haslett still has a job was because, to get back into the NFL, he was willing to forgo autonomy to Mike Shanahan (meanwhile, the other candidate, Mike Zimmer, is coordinating one of the NFL's top defenses). You wouldn't know that Bob Slowik, a below average coach, was shoved into a role as linebacker coach, a role he'd never held before. You wouldn't know that that the Redskins have had 3 wide receiver coaches in four years, none of whom had coaching experience, and in the case of Mike McDaniels, had only previously experiences coaching running backs.

You wouldn't that Mike's had complete control of the franchise for four years, with absolutely zero input from principal owner Daniel Snyder. That the team is constructed entirely of players he chose. That, though he was certainly screwed, he played a key role in the Redskins getting a $36 million dollar cap hit, in large part because he wanted to get in a pissing contest with Albert Haynesworth.

You wouldn't know about the infamous Shanahan Doghouse, or the mediocre draft choices, or the offensive line that never seemed to get better, or the defense that, like so many Shanahan teams, couldn't gain any traction, or the special teams unit disasters that span two coaches.

What you'll hear a lot of in the next few days isn't about Mike Shanahan's failures as a head coach. Instead, you'll hear about Dan Snyder and Robert Griffin III's "relationship".

By conveniently leaking info over the course of the last few weeks - about RG3′s insecurity, about Dan's meddling - Mike Shanahan, effectively, found a way to absolve himself of any and all failure of the organization. No, none of this is Mike's fault. It's Robert Griffin III, the insecure quarterback who rushed himself back because he was scared of losing a job to Kirk Cousins. It's Dan Snyder, ever the meddlesome meddler meddling his way into ruining the team's championship chances.They say the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. I don't want to call Mike Shanahan the devil, but he certainly did a great job of convincing everyone that he didn't exist, didn't he?

The lack of accountability from Mike Shanahan has been staggering. Gary Kubiak, a Shanahan disciple, lost his job, but did so with grace and seeming to know his role in the team's failures, and did it with humility and class. Shanahan, on the verge of losing his job, decided to backstab the owner and the quarterback who seemed poised to bring him back to relevancy and restore his Hall of Fame legacy.

Dan Snyder has given Mike Shanahan everything he wanted. Mike Shanahan told Dan Snyder not to hire him if he didn't give him five years to turn things around. Dan Snyder gave him a 5 year contract. Mike Shanahan asked for total control, including the role of general manager. Dan gave it to him (despite the fact that the actualgeneral manager Bruce Allen wasn't totally sold on Shanahan). Dan gave him full control of the cap, full control of player acquisition. He built him a training bubble, remodeled Redskins Park, renovated the stadium, okayed the trade of three first round picks to secure a franchise quarterback.

Dan watched as Mike Shanahan humiliated Donovan McNabb. He did not stir when Shanny trouted out John Beck and Rex Grossman, did not fret when failed trades like Jammal Brown withered away and died. Even when fans demanded that Dan get involved, he stayed away, let Shanahan handle it, stayed the course, did notoverreact, did not move his office back to Redskins Park, did not get buddy-buddy with players. Did not fire Mike Shanahan, even with pundits and analyst (many of whom will line up behind Shanahan to thumb their nose at Snyder) said he should.

...........

I feel like Mike owes me an apology. I feel like he owes Redskins Nation an apology. So many fans have stuck with him, and even now, even now, so many still stick with him. And he seems eager to quit and get out of dodge, and not only that, but to drag the team through the mud on his way out, throwing so many people under the bus on his way out there's enough blood to repaint all the lines on I-270 red. I want an apology for the lack of accountability. I want an apology for cardiovascular endurance, for "I'd stake my career on John Beck", for Joey Galloway and Roydell Williams and Larry Johnson, for every bullshyt personnel move I defended, for the inescapable doghouse and the refusal to answer questions. For screwing the cap up and not making hard cuts, to the offensive line that's never worthy of fixing and the defense he kept sticking his nose in even though he sucked at it. I want an apology for 6-10, 5-11 and now 3-10, I want an apology for wanting to bail on a 10 win NFC East division winner. I want an apology for not calling out Kyle Shanahan, I want an extra apology for Keith Burns, who makes me long for the days of Brandon Banks and Danny Smith's gum chewing, I want an apology for letting Lou Spanos walk to UCLA and keeping Bob Slowik when the whole world knows he can't coach, I want an apology for keeping Robert Griffin III in the game...

I want an apology. Redskins Nation deserves an apology. But grown adults, and brave men, and men capable of self-analysis and self-awareness apologize when their wrong.

Cowards run. Cowards play politics, cowards try to get fired, cowards blame all their failings on everyone else and never accept any fault of their own. Cowards complain about salary cap penalties and rides for player's wife and about the owner and the quarterback being too close, which in this case basically means "occasionally being in the same place as one another."

bytchers do that. You do know about bytchers, right Mike Shanahan?

I'll leave you with a quote from someone who I thought was a great man and a great head coach on "bytchers".

Building a positive attitude and maintaining it can be tough, particularly with all the negative people there are in this world. So many people in so many organizations are so unhappy with their lots in life, they'd almost be better off in anger management classes. They just love to bytch. They thrive on it. I refer to this unhappy lot of people as bytchers.

They complain about their jobs, about their spouses, about anything and everything, as if they have a monopoly on misery. As if others really want to hear it. They don't, but bytchers in the fraternity of the forlorn don't care. They try to drag you into their miserable little cave dwellings, where success never will pay a visit. - Mike Shanahan

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He deserves a lot of the criticism in this thread


But give Shanahan some credit. Before he came to Denver, the Broncos were a joke.
 
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