A message from planned parenthood to black women

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CharlieManson said:
"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members,"

That quote in that letter is taken out of context. And I know that quote.

She was pretty much saying...I don't want the people I am trying to help to think I am trying to exterminate Black people, so it is better if someone that is Black and have influence over the community can explain it to them better than I can since they probably don't trust me since I am a White woman.

And here you are, thinking she wanna exterminate Black people because of a quote, trying to explain to a doctor, we need Black ministers to explain we don't wanna exterminate Black people. Which is funny.

Cause there are no other inflammatory quotes like that. There are more quotes talking about how Black people need to have access to reproductive help to better our lives.

For example this quote...from The Public Papers of Margaret Sanger: Web Edition
I am deeply aware of the needless hazards to which Negro babies are subjected at birth in the United States at the present time. Last year 77 per cent of all white babies were born in hospitals, but less than half of the Negro mothers--43 per cent to be exact--were given hospital protection for themselves and their babies. Some day, if plans of such agencies as the U.S. Public Health Service are realized, there will not be a single section of the country without adequate hospital facilities for all. But until that day is here, Negro mothers should be given all possible protection against needless sacrifice through childbearing.

If Margret Sanger wanted us to die out, she would've left things how they were for us and give the benefits of reproductive medical care to only Whites.

She can't wanna exterminate us and at the same time help us. And how she is going to exterminate Black people by teaching Black people how to use condoms, family planning and birth control? Abortions were illegal in many states. shyt us having kids were dwindling our population more than us not having kids. Black mothers and babies were dying.

The reason why Black women have more abortions is because like I said.

We are a poor and young population. Majority of abortions are for women in their 20s. Black people We don't have access to reproductive healthcare like other races do. Black people have the highest percentage of unintended pregnancies and when we cannot afford a child and we don't use condoms, birth control pills and etc...we end up aborting.

We wouldn't have to abort if we have prerequisite wealth to have a kid. We wouldn't have to abort if we had adequate reproductive healthcare and knowledge. We wouldn't have to abort if we weren't so damn young.

Unintended Pregnancy in the United States
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are highest among poor and low-income women, women aged 18–24, cohabiting women and minority women.[8] Rates tend to be lowest among higher-income women, white women, college graduates and married women. For example, in 2011, the rate of unintended pregnancy among higher-income white women was less than half the national rate (18 vs. 45 unintended pregnancies per 1,000 women aged 15–44).[8]
  • The rate of unintended pregnancy among poor women (those with incomes below the federal poverty level) was 112 per 1,000 in 2011, more than five times the rate among women with incomes of at least 200% of the federal poverty level (20 per 1,000).[8]
  • At 79 per 1,000, the unintended pregnancy rate for black women in 2011 was more than double that of non-Hispanic white women (33 per 1,000).[8]
  • Women without a high school degree had the highest unintended pregnancy rate among all educational levels in 2011 (73 per 1,000), and rates were lower for women with more years of education.[8]
  • Two-thirds (68%) of U.S. women at risk for unintended pregnancy use contraceptives consistently and correctly throughout the course of any given year; these women account for only 5% of all unintended pregnancies. By contrast, the 18% of women at risk who use contraceptives inconsistently or incorrectly account for 41% of all unintended pregnancies. The 14% of women at risk who do not practice contraception at all or who have gaps of a month or more during the year account for 54% of all unintended pregnancies.[1]
  • Publicly funded family planning services help women avoid pregnancies they do not want and plan pregnancies they do want. In 2014, these services helped women avoid two million unintended pregnancies, which would likely have resulted in 900,000 unplanned births and nearly 700,000 abortions.[16]
  • Without publicly funded family planning services, U.S. rates of unintended pregnancy, unplanned birth and abortion for 2014 would have been 68% higher.[16]
  • The costs associated with unintended pregnancy would be even higher if not for continued federal and state investments in family planning services. In 2010, the nationwide public investment in family planning services resulted in $13.6 billion in net savings from helping women avoid unintended pregnancies and a range of other negative reproductive health outcomes, such as HIV and other STIs, cervical cancer and infertility.[17]
  • Had publicly funded family planning services not existed, the public costs of unintended pregnancies in 2010 might have been 75% higher.[15]
Poor people shouldn't have children. Young people shouldn't have children. The costs are high for the parents and the child and society.

And yes, you have to address the socioeconomic factors, but you still gotta prevent people an already vulnerable underclass from growing by giving them the means to manage their own reproduction.
Abortion is a last ditch option if reproductive health education and outreach doesn't work.

Any comprehensive solution to raise a nation or a people out of poverty is going to include reproductive health and provide measures like abortion.

An institution likle Planned Parenthood is only one of the tools that is needed for us to improve our condition. We still need reparations, job programs, educational programs that are government funded since I am a socialist/communist, I believe government should provide shyt like that for it's citizens, especially us. The attacks on Planned Parenthood always include this myth that Margret Sanger wanted to exterminate Black people...when that's completely false.
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I'll keep my response short because I don't we are not trying to convince each other of the facts. we both agree about the facts, we disagree about the solution and the providers of said solution.

You believe that there are a lot of black children out there that should have never have been born, and that it would be better for the mother, our society, and society as a whole if they were never born. In fact, the views you espoused go even further than Sanger's. From your comment it seems like you would take further actions to make sure these people weren't able to reproduce.

In your mind, it is entirely possible for a white woman to head a white organization who is totally and completely benign and wants nothing more than the betterment of black society and improvement of QoL for black women. However, from her own words and beliefs, I do not buy this for one second.

But to be honest.... just going by your posts in this thread... I dont think this even matters to you. You are pro Eugenics, so Sanger's motives probably don't sway you either way. Even if more evidence came out shining light on her beliefs, I doubt you would change your stance on Eugenics because you believe it regardless of Sanger's involvement. This is not necessarily a bad thing, I just see it differently.

As for her quote... she would say the exact same thing if she was trying to ensure that black people did not catch on to her so that's a completely moot point. You take it one way, I take it the other way.

So like I said, this was always an ethical argument. I see this as this a "solution" that solves 1 symptom but does nothing to solve the problem in the same vein that post-Civil War indentured servitude did nothing to solve the education/employment discrepancy between blacks and whites.

I'm not for it. I see why you are, but i'm not.

Maybe if I was talking about mice or fruit flies I would see it your way, but human beings? Nah I'm sorry, i'm not just that utilitarian.

I'm also not a black woman. It would be interesting to get some insight from the brehettes on this.
 
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BoBurnz said:
You're cutting out the rest of the thread, which is about how black women are disproportionately represented in birth mortality rates, because 4x the rate of black women die than any other race of women during childbirth or immediately afterwards.:snoop: It is not fukking "They kids will go out into the hood and get shot up". And that by offering abortions legally, we offer them safe alternatives if they have a second thought or complications late in term that they couldn't foresee.

But of course you knew that. :sas2:
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Why are they dying during childbirth?

Wouldn’t be surprised if black women were dying during birth because of white racist doctors not caring for them enough as they do white patients

Don’t forget about this study because it is relevant :ufdup:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...-pain-than-whites-their-doctors-may-think-so/
 
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I don't see in that tweet anything advocating for abortion, it just highlights how dangerous the birth mortality stats are for black women.

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Fake outrage.
 
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