A Mysterious Infection, Spanning the Globe in a Climate of Secrecy

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It gets a bit of coverage in the UK. When it hit the UK hospital they referred to it a a new superbug but didn't name it to my knowledge.
There have also been plans afoot to slow down the use of antibiotics unless absolutely necessary.
It feels, however, like the cat is out of the bag and these things will only get worse and worse.

Checking for the ebola story now. Heard nothing about that.
 

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The hell? Ebola spread g and local are burning down treatment centres?

It's crazy in the Congo right now.
 

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It gets a bit of coverage in the UK. When it hit the UK hospital they referred to it a a new superbug but didn't name it to my knowledge.
There have also been plans afoot to slow down the use of antibiotics unless absolutely necessary.
It feels, however, like the cat is out of the bag and these things will only get worse and worse.

Checking for the ebola story now. Heard nothing about that.

Gotcha. Yeah, one would think they’ve only been getting worse since the early 2000s.

Pretty sure in the Congo I read the story last night
 

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And some of y'all don't think farmers are important and my complaints about agribusiness are legit???

Just look at this shyt from the article. This fukking pisses me off so much.

"For decades, public health experts have warned that the overuse of antibiotics was reducing the effectiveness of drugs that have lengthened life spans by curing bacterial infections once commonly fatal. But lately, there has been an explosion of resistant fungi as well, adding a new and frightening dimension to a phenomenon that is undermining a pillar of modern medicine."

"Antibiotics and antifungals are both essential to combat infections in people, but antibiotics are also used widely to prevent disease in farm animals, and antifungals are also applied to prevent agricultural plants from rotting. Some scientists cite evidence that rampant use of fungicides on crops is contributing to the surge in drug-resistant fungi infecting humans."

"Dr. Meis, the Dutch researcher, said he believed that drug-resistant fungi were developing thanks to heavy use of fungicides on crops.

Dr. Meis became intrigued by resistant fungi when he heard about the case of a 63-year-old patient in the Netherlands who died in 2005 from a fungus called Aspergillus. It proved resistant to a front-line antifungal treatment called itraconazole. That drug is a virtual copy of the azole pesticides that are used to dust crops the world over and account for more than one-third of all fungicide sales.

A 2013 paper in Plos Pathogens said that it appeared to be no coincidence that drug-resistant Aspergillus was showing up in the environment where the azole fungicides were used. The fungus appeared in 12 percent of Dutch soil samples, for example, but also in “flower beds, compost, leaves, plant seeds, soil samples of tea gardens, paddy fields, hospital surroundings, and aerial samples of hospitals.”

Dr. Meis visited the C.D.C. last summer to share research and theorize that the same thing is happening with C. auris, which is also found in the soil: Azoles have created an environment so hostile that the fungi are evolving, with resistant strains surviving.

This is similar to concerns that resistant bacteria are growing because of excessive use of antibiotics in livestock for health and growth promotion. As with antibiotics in farm animals, azoles are used widely on crops.

“On everything — potatoes, beans, wheat, anything you can think of, tomatoes, onions,” said Dr. Rhodes, the infectious disease specialist who worked on the London outbreak. “We are driving this with the use of antifungicides on crops.”"

"Dr. Chiller theorizes that C. auris may have benefited from the heavy use of fungicides. His idea is that C. auris actually has existed for thousands of years, hidden in the world’s crevices, a not particularly aggressive bug. But as azoles began destroying more prevalent fungi, an opportunity arrived for C. auris to enter the breach, a germ that had the ability to readily resist fungicides now suitable for a world in which fungi less able to resist are under attack."
 

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The overuse of antibiotics is definitely gonna be one of the things that leads to the end of us. I'll pull up to the doctor, they'll diagnose me with a viral infection and STILL prescribe me antibiotics. I always look at them like :why:
 

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With bacteria and fungi alike, hospitals and local governments are reluctant to disclose outbreaks for fear of being seen as infection hubs. Even the C.D.C., under its agreement with states, is not allowed to make public the location or name of hospitals involved in outbreaks. State governments have in many cases declined to publicly share information beyond acknowledging that they have had cases.

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The germ has spread into long-term care facilities. In Chicago, 50 percent of the residents at some nursing homes have tested positive for it, the C.D.C. has reported.


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The overuse of antibiotics is definitely gonna be one of the things that leads to the end of us. I'll pull up to the doctor, they'll diagnose me with a viral infection and STILL prescribe me antibiotics. I always look at them like :why:

That literally happened with our daughter last month. We said fukk that and didn't fulfill the prescription.
 

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It gets a bit of coverage in the UK. When it hit the UK hospital they referred to it a a new superbug but didn't name it to my knowledge.
There have also been plans afoot to slow down the use of antibiotics unless absolutely necessary.
It feels, however, like the cat is out of the bag and these things will only get worse and worse.

Checking for the ebola story now. Heard nothing about that.

not only that... parents no longer let their kids play outside.

so they dont build a good immune system


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As a new parent, Jack Gilbert got a lot of different advice on how to properly look after his child: when to give him antibiotics or how often he should sterilize his pacifier, for example.


After the birth of his second child, Gilbert, a scientist who studies microbial ecosystems at the University of Chicago, decided to find out what's actually known about the risks involved when modern-day children come in contact with germs.


"It turned out that most of the exposures were actually beneficial," Gilbert says. "So that dirty pacifier that fell on the floor — if you just stick it in your mouth and lick it, and then pop it back in little Tommy's mouth, it's actually going to stimulate their immune system. Their immune system's going to become stronger because of it."


Gilbert is now the co-author of a new book called Dirt is Good: The Advantage of Germs for Your Child's Developing Immune System. Presented in a Q&A format, the book seeks to answer many of the questions Gilbert has fielded from parents over the years.

Interview Highlights
What are some things that parents get wrong?

Some of the main things are over-sterilizing their environment, keeping their children from ever getting dirty. So going out into the backyard and playing in the mud, and then as soon as they're filthy, bringing them in and sterilizing their hands with antiseptic wipes, and then making sure that none of the dirt gets near their faces. Also, keeping them away from animals. The dogs and cats, sure, but also, other animals. It's fine to wash their hands if there's a cold or a flu virus around, but if they're interacting with a dog, and the dog licks their face, that's not a bad thing. In fact that could be extremely beneficial for the child's health.

What about hand sanitizer? Good or bad?

Usually bad. Hot, soapy water is fine. Even mildly warm, soapy water is fine, and it's probably less damaging to the child's overall health.

How about the five-second rule? The idea that if something falls on the ground and is there for under five seconds, it's clean.

The five-second rule doesn't exist. It takes milliseconds for microbes to attach themselves to a sticky piece of jammy toast, for example. But it makes no difference. Unless you dropped it in an area where you think they could be a high risk of extremely dangerous pathogens, which in every modern American home is virtually impossible, then there's no risk to your child.


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Parents' Saliva On Pacifiers Could Ward Off Baby's Allergies

Wash a pacifier or lick it if it falls on the ground?

Lick it. A study of over 300,000 children showed that parents who licked the pacifier and put it back in — their kids developed less allergies, less asthma, less eczema. Overall, their health was stronger and more robust. [Editor's note: See the correction below. Just 184 children were involved in the study.]

Are things like allergies an unintended consequence of trying to protect our kids too much?


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From Birth, Our Microbes Become As Personal As A Fingerprint



Absolutely. In the past, we would have eaten a lot more fermented foods, which contain bacteria. We would have allowed our children to be exposed to animals and plants and soil on a much more regular basis. Now we live indoors. We sterilize our surfaces. Their immune systems then become hyper-sensitized. You have these little soldier cells in your body called neutrophils, and when they spend too long going around looking for something to do, they become grumpy and pro-inflammatory. And so when they finally see something that's foreign, like a piece of pollen, they become explosively inflammatory. They go crazy. That's what triggers asthma and eczema and often times, food allergies.

Give us some advice. What should I allow my child to do?

Oftentimes, it's hard to get your kid to eat a healthy diet. I would strongly try to encourage the consumption of more colorful vegetables, more leafy vegetables, a diet more rich in fiber as well as reducing the sugar intake. But just generally, allow your kid to experience the world. As long as they're properly vaccinated, there's no threat, and they will actually get a stronger, more beneficial exposure.
 
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