A PHD Students Solution to Tanking

((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL

Hussle & Motivate
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
21,268
Reputation
8,171
Daps
102,493
Tanking" — the process of creating a team that is designed to lose a lot of games with the hopes of gaining a valuable draft pick — reared its ugly head again when Buffalo Sabres fans cheered a game-winning goal by the opposing team.

When he was a Ph.D. candidate in statistics at the University of Missouri in 2012, Adam Gold presented a solution to tanking at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference.

Gold's "Reverse Standings" method attempts to reward the teams that need draft picks the most while at the same time discouraging teams from intentionally losing games.

The proposal is rather brilliant in its simplicity, something that will appeal to most sports fans, and is better than the system currently in place for most major sports.

Here is how the "Reverse Standings" method would work:

Teams that do not make the playoffs are ranked based on the number of games they win (or points they accumulate in the NHL) after they are eliminated from playoff contention. The team with the most wins (or points) is then given the top pick in the draft. The team with second-most wins (or points) receives the second pick and so on.

The important point here is that only games played after being eliminated from playoff contention are used to determine the draft order.

In theory, the worst teams are eliminated earlier in the season and those teams have the most chances to accumulate wins or points. For example, an NBA team eliminated from playoff contention with 30 games to go will have 30 chances to rack up wins and will have a much better chance to get the top pick than a team eliminated with one week to go.

What this system would cure is the systematic losing that takes place once teams know they are no longer a playoff contender. Gold showed that the winning percentages for teams in all four major North American sports leagues decline after they are eliminated from the playoffs, with the difference being quite dramatic in the NBA and NHL.

4-1-2015%2012-13-58%20pm.jpg




Instead of a system that has teams losing games to jockey for draft position or ping pong balls in a lottery, teams will actually be rewarded for winning games, creating a scenario where all teams will want to win games down the stretch.



http://www.businessinsider.com/reverse-standings-tanking-2015-4#ixzz3WDEXzCBR

 

CrimsonTider

Seduce & Scheme
WOAT
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
85,902
Reputation
-13,849
Daps
135,407
TBH i think they should just leave it has is. I dont find tanking to be that big of an issue. Gives shiity teams fanbase's some hope
anything is better than what they have now.

if you being in the playoffs is puts you in a worse position than not making playoffs as a franchise than changes should be made immediately
 

SchoolboyC

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Feb 27, 2014
Messages
25,177
Reputation
4,755
Daps
107,194
That still doesn't address the fact that there's teams that tank long before they're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. At this point, I don't care. If a couple teams want to tank then who cares. Hell a lot of people I see can't even tell the difference between a team that's tanking and a team that's just legitimately awful.

The only way to 100% get rid of tanking is to end draft order being determined by record in any form. If you don't want to do that, then tanking is something you're just gonna have to deal with.
 
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
89,679
Reputation
10,271
Daps
241,480
The loophole in that system is that you can still tank - all you have to do is cruise through the first three-quarters of the season (rest your main players and concede situation games like back-to-backs), then when you're out of playoff contention bring them all back and start actively trying to win games. And to be honest it'd fukk up the season, because you'd get the teams that want to compete for a playoff spot running right away from the other teams who wanted to tank - then when that time elapses - the teams that already have a seeded-position locked in, will start resting guys and concede games here and there knowing they made the playoffs and the teams wanting a pick would then started trying to win.

You'd get a lot of inconsistent results and efforts from all teams.
 

tremonthustler1

aka bx_representer
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
87,596
Reputation
10,192
Daps
218,034
Reppin
My Pops Forever RIP
Again with tanking :smh:

If you say a team is tanking, you're in denial of how bad a team can be. If I looked at the Warriors' record and said "they can't be that good' you'd call me nuts and say THEY ARE THAT GOOD. Well, bad teams are that bad. They just have enough incentive to not fully feel like shyt for being that bad.

I hate the lottery, only because I'd rather do away with it. Besides that, people gotta realize that being awful has no benefits, and damn sure no guarantee of one. There's no payoff for being garbage because even a rookie alone can't change your fortunes overnight.
 

DeVanteSwing

Flop Champion
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
3,438
Reputation
370
Daps
6,175
Bad teams will continue to be bad

The draft is meant to help the worst teams and bring them to contention by giving them a chance at a young star

Once today's NBA balances out with the Wolves, Sixers, etc adding more talent, nobody will be talking

there's 0 reward for getting swept in the first round
 

Houston911

Super Moderator
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
47,389
Reputation
14,619
Daps
202,139
maybe penalize teams that suck year after year

Like you can only pick in the top 5 for 2 consecutive seasons

When they stop goving rookies cheap contracts you will see a lot less teams tanking

Rookie deals should be two years with a team option for the 3rd
 
Top