A Serious Discussion on the Homicide Rate in the Black Community

[Child_Of_God]

So the system isn’t to blame?

The problem always seems to be personal responsibility

I guess slavery was a choice too then

No offense man but that excuse is getting played out now. Nobody is forcing these fools to rob and kill another Black person. They choose to do that on their own free will because they are monsters.

Majority of Black folks who live in poverty don’t turn to crime, they work honest jobs to provide for themselves and their families instead.

 

[Easy-E]

The legacy of Slavery and systematic racism is definitely apart of the issue, but personal accountability and responsibility is also another. Exorbitant homicide rates is symptomatic of a more insidious issue and the cancer has metastasized.

Nobody is killing black ppl on this forum.

So if it's about personal responsibility why r u talking to us?

 

[Jesus Bhrist]

These billionaires are not for the people.

They want to cause chaos so that their corporations can take control of resources and dictate how the world works.

I can see this in NYC Deblasio got nikkas shooting dope in Broad Daylight and nikkas is getting arrested for multiple gun charges and coming home on 5 different bail’s

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Here’s what’s going to happen in the future if this bs continues.


Black communities will continue to be abandoned or gentrified. we will see more white and burns become more diverse cause the right to do blacks will not want anything to do with the blacks who refuse to raise their kids properly.

And no! No right to do black will put their life on the line to fight street thugs to eradicate them.

let them have north Saint Louis.

 

[Chrishaune]

I can see this in NYC Deblasio got nikkas shooting dope in Broad Daylight and nikkas is getting arrested for multiple gun charges and coming home on 5 different bail’s

Everything that happens has a reason behind it. Most of the time that reason is demonic.

But black folks need to educate themselves and a lot of them need to leave this country. We didn't come up with this system of capitalism. A lot of black people would be more comfortable back in the homeland. Just don't take drugs and the gang life back with you.

 

[Jesus Bhrist]

Nobody is killing black ppl on this forum.

So if it's about personal responsibility why r u talking to us?

That’s what you got from that? lol igh bro

 

[ShaneTheRogue]

But to answer your question proper op. "How did we get here?"


Well I'm no expert. But working backwards from the present.

1. Black folks are disproportionately below the poverty line in the U.S. (This is usually the part where "pull yourself by your bootstraps types cut you off before letting you expound) Black folks are mostly concentrated near each other in the U.S.

2. Poor people of all races are more likely to turn to violent crime and street gangs. Since we established Black Americans are more likely to be poor and also usually live within close proximity of other Black people...this means Black on Black crime is going to be higher compared to other races...seeing as they are fortunate enough to be less likely to be put in those situations.

Why are Black people more likely to be poorer than other groups?

3. American Slavery, Jim Crow, systemic as well as institutional racism against Black people since the conception of this country have gave other groups a significant headstart and other advantages that Black are less likely to have.

"But Im Black and White Supremacy never stopped me!" Well some Jews escaped the Holocaust what's your point?


But why do Black folks seem crueler and more callous to other Black people?

Well as we previously established Black people are more likely to be underprivileged as well as more likely to live near other underprivileged Black people. This creates a violent, self sustaining loop of Blacks targeting other Blacks thus creating bad blood in our communities. After all, poorer people are more likely to engage in street crime.

And since, like I previously mentioned, Black people are still negatively affected by Americas prejudiced past and present...it makes it harder to escape. And unfortunately became apart of our culture to many of us.

With all that said, what's the solution(s)?

Well some suggestions by me are:

1. Become more involved politically. Both as voters and candidates. Work towards creating political literacy.

2. Increase financial and business literacy. Focusing on politics won't matter unless we have money to throw around. We also need to make progress towards creating generational wealth.

3. Stop putting Blacks who are proud criminals and/or proudly ignorant on a pedestal. Stop associating Black masculinity with criminality and senseless violence. And stop rewarding them with clout. Be role models to young Black people so they can see you can be respected without the extra shyt.

4. "Each one teach one" simply pass off any game you may have to any Black person willing to listen. Not getting discouraged when you run into ones who won't.

5. Definitely not going online spreading negativity insinuating that Black folks are a lost cause. (c00ning)

Basic list but like i said I'm no expert. @Jesus Bhrist

 

[B86]

I think outside of white people 97-99% of murders are within the same race. Whites are something like 92-95% depending on the year. It's.not a unique thing to one community.

THE RATES. Why do we act like we can’t comprehend this shyt? Somebody spews what you said in every thread like this, but the RATE at which we are killing is the issue.

 

[B86]

prolonged exposure to poverty

That DOES NOT cause people to kill each other over nothing (words in most cases). It’s different if people are killing to survive. NONE of these young nikkas are killing to survive. More like killing for sport

 

[ShaneTheRogue]

You basically just proved my point by calling me a c00n…why would i not talk about a topic affecting the black community on a predominantly black message-board? Where else am I supposed to discuss this? nikkas already know about white supremacy, systematic and institutionalized racism, nikkas already understand that, so because of that I’m not allowed to talk about Nîggas being 85% of homicides deaths? Is that going off code? I don’t understand


Then insinuating I'm using eugenicist and racist pseudoscience talking point’s is disingenuous….you basically gaslighting me for wanting to talk about what’s going on, when i asked how we reached this point and if there’s any solutions?


The legacy of Slavery and systematic racism is definitely apart of the issue, but personal accountability and responsibility is also another. Exorbitant homicide rates is symptomatic of a more insidious issue and the cancer has metastasized. White supremacy is like rhetorical praxis for nikkas like you that attempt relinquish the culpability of nikkas, you protecting these murderers by not wanting to talk about this shyt

I said I call people c00ns who "discuss" the topic in bad faith. Such as yourself.

nikkas already know about white supremacy, systematic and institutionalized racism, nikkas already understand that, so because of that I’m not allowed to talk about Nîggas being 85% of homicides deaths?

"nikkas also know about "Black on Black crime" so what are you saying? You claim you want a real dialogue about how we got here...only to flippantly dismiss significant reasons such as slavery and ws as "nikkas already know that" apparently they don't know enough seeing as this thread is made on a weekly basis. You can't be serious.

And see my other comment in this thread I pretty much address all your other points.

 

[ThatTruth777]

That DOES NOT cause people to kill each other over nothing (words in most cases). It’s different if people are killing to survive. NONE of these young nikkas are killing to survive. More like killing for sport

Well I'm not saying that the ones who do resort to violence are a majority but the ones who do even if they are minuscule are what caused this thread to be made. Those people whether out of frustration, shear stupidity or whatever react differently to the pressure. I'm not sympathizing with any murderers breh.

 

[King]

No offense man but that excuse is getting played out now. Nobody is forcing these fools to rob and kill another Black person. They choose to do that on their own free will because they are monsters.

Majority of Black folks who live in poverty don’t turn to crime, they work honest jobs to provide for themselves and their families instead.

“Monsters” are created by the system.

That whole excuse of “most people aren’t monsters, why are they” is played out. You are witnessing the effects of over a century of black exploitation and systemic racism on absolutely every level.

Yet you types willingly choose to ignore the root cause and focus on the symptoms - like most poor black people working themselves into an early grave.

 

[KamikazePilot]

I live in The Bronx….so I’m not allowed to talk about the environment i live and work in because I don’t have a no profit organization and some community outreach programs. nikkas is shooting heroin in the face outside of my job and we had a nikka die outside the other day.


I work in a mens shelter and i have seen at least 15+ people die since 2020



I have another job at a detention center and all the young nikkas you hear about being murdered in Broad Daylight on the news, they killer’s are being housed there. So I’m all around the murderers and the murdered, in my professional life and my civilian life…..my baby moms is a teacher we in THE BRONX these little 8th graders are writing and reading comprehension is 1st grade level bro but they getting caught in school with guns and drugs etc…

Nah, the government isn’t causing black men to shoot up blocks and kill innocent bystanders.

Me being successful and knowing what to do with my future kids and raise them properly is what I’m doing to stop. Also education nikkas around me too.


Raise your kids better. It’s the only solution. Not some lame ass after school program that forces kids to miss GOAT cartoons in the evening

The system is working how it’s meant to work until people want to do something about the system this will continue. People are comfortable so nothing will change. Instead of trying to be saviors focus inward on yourself. Y’all (except for the Bronx guy) appropriate a struggle that’s not yours just because you share melanin doesn’t make you the same in the struggle you face.

 

[Jay Kast]

The coli threads on black issues sound like white people playing black.

Why oh why is this happening!? Dont blame white folk at all, tho - we don't wanna hear that shyt!

Why are you blacks - I mean, us blacks so damn criminal!?

 

[ShaneTheRogue]

But to answer your question proper op. "How did we get here?"


Well I'm no expert. But working backwards from the present.

1. Black folks are disproportionately below the poverty line in the U.S. (This is usually the part where "pull yourself by your bootstraps types cut you off before letting you expound) Black folks are mostly concentrated near each other in the U.S.

2. Poor people of all races are more likely to turn to violent crime and street gangs. Since we established Black Americans are more likely to be poor and also usually live within close proximity of other Black people...this means Black on Black crime is going to be higher compared to other races...seeing as they are fortunate enough to be less likely to be put in those situations.

Why are Black people more likely to be poorer than other groups?

3. American Slavery, Jim Crow, systemic as well as institutional racism against Black people since the conception of this country have gave other groups a significant headstart and other advantages that Black are less likely to have.

"But Im Black and White Supremacy never stopped me!" Well some Jews escaped the Holocaust what's your point?


But why do Black folks seem crueler and more callous to other Black people?

Well as we previously established Black people are more likely to be underprivileged as well as more likely to live near other underprivileged Black people. This creates a violent, self sustaining loop of Blacks targeting other Blacks thus creating bad blood in our communities. After all, poorer people are more likely to engage in street crime.

And since, like I previously mentioned, Black people are still negatively affected by Americas prejudiced past and present...it makes it harder to escape. And unfortunately became apart of our culture to many of us.

With all that said, what's the solution(s)?

Well some suggestions by me are:

1. Become more involved politically. Both as voters and candidates. Work towards creating political literacy.

2. Increase financial and business literacy. Focusing on politics won't matter unless we have money to throw around. We also need to make progress towards creating generational wealth.

3. Stop putting Blacks who are proud criminals and/or proudly ignorant on a pedestal. Stop associating Black masculinity with criminality and senseless violence. And stop rewarding them with clout. Be role models to young Black people so they can see you can be respected without the extra shyt.

4. "Each one teach one" simply pass off any game you may have to any Black person willing to listen. Not getting discouraged when you run into ones who won't.

5. Definitely not going online spreading negativity insinuating that Black folks are a lost cause. (c00ning)

Basic list but like i said I'm no expert. @Jesus Bhrist

@Jesus Bhrist