A Serious Discussion on the Homicide Rate in the Black Community

[calixprynce]

I'd rather have a serious discussion about the homicide rate.

what about it ?


i walk in the pill and the dorm , they like he banged out
my enemy's hoods is tatted , and they wacced out
runnin fades in the bacc, we gone racc bunks
i took a 3-man , for 1-on-1's , im 3 much

 

[Jesus Bhrist]

DRAKEO THE RULER CONFIRMED DEAD YA’LL

 

[DatBoiHawk]

But to answer your question proper op. "How did we get here?"


Well I'm no expert. But working backwards from the present.

1. Black folks are disproportionately below the poverty line in the U.S. (This is usually the part where "pull yourself by your bootstraps types cut you off before letting you expound) Black folks are mostly concentrated near each other in the U.S.

2. Poor people of all races are more likely to turn to violent crime and street gangs. Since we established Black Americans are more likely to be poor and also usually live within close proximity of other Black people...this means Black on Black crime is going to be higher compared to other races...seeing as they are fortunate enough to be less likely to be put in those situations.

Why are Black people more likely to be poorer than other groups?

3. American Slavery, Jim Crow, systemic as well as institutional racism against Black people since the conception of this country have gave other groups a significant headstart and other advantages that Black are less likely to have.

"But Im Black and White Supremacy never stopped me!" Well some Jews escaped the Holocaust what's your point?


But why do Black folks seem crueler and more callous to other Black people?

Well as we previously established Black people are more likely to be underprivileged as well as more likely to live near other underprivileged Black people. This creates a violent, self sustaining loop of Blacks targeting other Blacks thus creating bad blood in our communities. After all, poorer people are more likely to engage in street crime.

And since, like I previously mentioned, Black people are still negatively affected by Americas prejudiced past and present...it makes it harder to escape. And unfortunately became apart of our culture to many of us.

With all that said, what's the solution(s)?

Well some suggestions by me are:

1. Become more involved politically. Both as voters and candidates. Work towards creating political literacy.

2. Increase financial and business literacy. Focusing on politics won't matter unless we have money to throw around. We also need to make progress towards creating generational wealth.

3. Stop putting Blacks who are proud criminals and/or proudly ignorant on a pedestal. Stop associating Black masculinity with criminality and senseless violence. And stop rewarding them with clout. Be role models to young Black people so they can see you can be respected without the extra shyt.

4. "Each one teach one" simply pass off any game you may have to any Black person willing to listen. Not getting discouraged when you run into ones who won't.

5. Definitely not going online spreading negativity insinuating that Black folks are a lost cause. (c00ning)

Basic list but like i said I'm no expert. @Jesus Bhrist

Nailed it! All facts. Poverty and lack of resources creates crime and which group is most likely to be underprivileged? Black people. Just look at how the Italians behaved when they first got to America and look at the Mexicans now in Mexico im tired of the black community being blamed for the actions of criminals

 

[DatBoiHawk]

Let’s not act like violence isn’t part of our culture though. I remember a thread a couple months back about girls fighting in a school bathroom because one was being bullied, and the majority of the posters were encouraging it, by saying the only way to stop someone from talking shyt is to whoop their ass. A lot of us use violence to solve problems, and spank our kids. Most of us don’t take it to the extreme of murdering someone, but all that violence isn’t financially related. You’re being intellectually dishonest if you don’t acknowledge that.

So now we the only ones whipping our kids and watching fight videos?
Meanwhile the whole ufc audience is white peoples watching other white people get knocked the fukk out. Man shut the fukk up

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

So now we the only ones whipping our kids and watching fight videos?
Meanwhile the whole ufc audience is white peoples watching other white people get knocked the fukk out. Man shut the fukk up

You’re comparing sports to real life.

We use violence to solve our problems far too often. You know it’s true. Our music is full of violence, and sex. You know it’s true.

 

[DatBoiHawk]

You’re comparing sports to real life.

We use violence to solve our problems far too often. You know it’s true. Our music is full of violence, and sex. You know it’s true.

Yes rap music is, but acting like black folks are demonic for watching fight videos is pretty fukked up considering a fight is a fight and this is why I brought up ufc because it’s the same as a street fight it’s just held in an octagon. What’s the difference between two people beating each other up on the street vs in a ring besides one fighting for free while the other is paid? White folks love UFC and whose to say they don’t love watching fights on worldstar too?

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Here's the problem

By now we have a few generations of unsupervised children who band together into gangs. 15 year olds are making up the rules as they go and they are totally misguided.

How can you tell? Cause almost every single one who survives to like 30 starts trying to tell young people to stop banging.

The young buls would have to be born into a structure that does not allow them to act out in these insane ways. A community that is set up to defend itself against serial murderers. Meaning there would need to be authority figures who will physically get you if you violate. Not the cops. The OGs.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Yes rap music is, but acting like black folks are demonic for watching fight videos is pretty fukked up considering a fight is a fight and this is why I brought up ufc because it’s the same as a street fight it’s just held in an octagon. What’s the difference between two people beating each other up on the street vs in a ring besides one fighting for free while the other is paid? White folks love UFC and whose to say they don’t love watching fights on worldstar too?

I was referring to a fight between teen girls in high school being posted, and most of the comments here was encouraging the fight, because one girl was talking shyt. When someone’s solution for shyt talking is physical violence, yeah, it’s a problem.

 

[ISO]

You know why even have a discussion if the answers that are there in front of yall yall don't even know.

Look, check how many correctional facilities Cuomo closed in the past 2 terms. Look at the number of inmates that they released. Didn't they say that the prison numbers are down. You don't think that this shyt is some orchestrated shyt by the government? If you really look at crimes, it's the same people committing the crime. You don't see that the whole George Floyd, black lives matter controlled opposition has been about using social justice to slickly allow the government to stop doing its functions so they can make shyt get out of control where they can get "tough on crime".

What do you think they're going to start introducing?


The problem is yall keeping looking at it as a us thing when in reality, we aren't the ones labeling it a crime wave. They are. Trust be told, as long as the government is that has the responsibility is obtaining crime reports and data, we don't know how much crime is happening at a given moment. For all you know, crime may have never gone down. We wouldn't know. It's the media and government that said there was a crime wave. Can't trust them.

Trill talk, this a great point you brought up.


I personally think it's a combination of things.

The media is overreporting incidents, police are stepping back like () y'all wanted to defund the police, there's more cameras / social media so someone in dallas can report on some shyt in LA, the news media is in cohorts with police departments because how they get access to information, and lastly we must look at who's funding these news stations as well as their political leanings.

For example we all know fox is bigoted as fukk and they lean to the right,


But are people also aware of Sinclair, which has been buying numerous news stations throughout the country, and guess what domination they lean towards.....the right.

Sinclair Broadcast Group, the pro-Trump, conservative company taking over local news, explained

Why don’t these people see it. I believe that’s why they gave that trucker 110 years to.

Nikkas got they tin foil hats on

 

[Pazzy]

Nikkas got they tin foil hats on

Boy you better wake up. Do you know how many state prisons they've closed in New York state in the last 10 years?

Prison officials to close 6 facilities in New York state

And that's the new list. Where do you think all those people are going? They're closing the supermax too. Some of these guys being released don't need to be out of prison. They're emptying out the jails.

You do know that they're pretty much paroling everybody now.






Now the good stuff.

CBS 6 Investigates: NYS lost track of over 3,200 parolees, including violent sex offenders

Keep thinking it's a game with this social reform gone wild bullshyt the government is doing. It's obvious something is going on.

 

[ISO]

Boy you better wake up. Do you know how many state prisons they've closed in New York state in the last 10 years?

Prison officials to close 6 facilities in New York state

And that's the new list. Where do you think all those people are going? They're closing the supermax too. Some of these guys being released don't need to be out of prison. They're emptying out the jails.

You do know that they're pretty much paroling everybody now.






Now the good stuff.

CBS 6 Investigates: NYS lost track of over 3,200 parolees, including violent sex offenders

Keep thinking it's a game with this social reform gone wild bullshyt the government is doing. It's obvious something is going on.

Those prisons were closed down because it didn’t make sense to keep them open they were far below max capacity. Besides, people campaigned for the closure of those prisons and the new lady governor has considered making them mental health and substance abuse centers. It’s not like all these prisoners were released they were mostly transferred along with the workers to other prisons.

I also wouldn’t say that released inmates are the reason for the uptick or even behind most of the crime there’s no data to back that up.

I do agree the police going after the George Floyd riots is playing a factor but I don’t see a big media conspiracy to create crime wave hysteria. It’s not the media it’s very real. Those folks in Philly will tell you.

 

[Pazzy]

Those prisons were closed down because it didn’t make sense to keep them open they were far below max capacity. Besides, people campaigned for the closure of those prisons and the new lady governor has considered making them mental health and substance abuse centers. It’s not like all these prisoners were released they were mostly transferred along with the workers to other prisons.

I also wouldn’t say that released inmates are the reason for the uptick or even behind most of the crime there’s no data to back that up.

I do agree the police going after the George Floyd riots is playing a factor but I don’t see a big media conspiracy to create crime wave hysteria. It’s not the media it’s very real. Those folks in Philly will tell you.

Point is shyt is orchestrated.

One of the biggest issues that as a black community we do to ourselves is we are confused. We have been tricked by the enemy to accept our oppression while running in place then blaming ourselves for things we have nothing to do with.

Look at this thread. You are aware that the government is playing a role in this crime wave. Yet you're ready to dismiss it as a conspiracy theory. Its like how can you causal say the government would never do anything like that when historically THEY HAVE. In fact, they've even participated in it even yet we have folks in here lying to themselves, ready to blame everything on their own community.

We have to know what we are a fault with and what we are not at fault with. For example, look at how we are literally making a culture off of oppression. We have been so uneducated about our oppression that we celebrate it and associate it with our blackness. We as a collective don't make it a responsibility to educate ourselves about our oppression and history to see how our oppression as evolved from slave chains to psychological warfare. It's important to know the facts that way we know what the fukk we are fighting for and against.

 

[Jesus Bhrist]

How i get this pinned? I think we should have this thread for serious discussion

 

[Jesus Bhrist]

Chicago boy was fatally shot by 16-year-old wearing electronic monitoring bracelet for previous crimes: CPD

Man killed friend's brother for teasing him for FaceTiming girlfriend

 

[CrimsonTider]

Chicago boy was fatally shot by 16-year-old wearing electronic monitoring bracelet for previous crimes: CPD

Man killed friend's brother for teasing him for FaceTiming girlfriend

I told y’all

all this catch and release stuff is bullshyt