A Subway Series Or A Missouri Showdown? Which has a better chance at happening in world series

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But here we go.
If the season ended today, the Mets would play the Cardinals and the Pirates would play the Dodgers.

In a best of 5 series...I actually believe the Mets could advance against St. Louis. For one thing, I believe the Cardinals are EXTREMELY lucky with their pitching staff. John Lackey is not this good. And neither is Lance Lynn. They just don't have the overpowering stuff and I have to believe eventually they're going to get smacked around. I realize Lynn has amazing numbers...his K/9 is unreal at 9.6 but having watched him pitch I don't get how he does it. He's given up relatively few HRs for his flyball percentage. James Shields has given up twice as many HR on a flyball percentage 4% lower. Lynn has to come back down to earth eventually.

Anyway, even if the Mets could take a 5-game series against the Cards, they'd likely have to face the Dodgers who I just think...with Kershaw and Greinke, are not going to lose to the Pirates. Gerrit Cole being as good as he is, the Pirates just can't win with Walker, Polanco and Harrison underperforming this year. And let's face it, Pedro Alvarez is a strikeout waiting to happen.

So you've got the Mets vs the Dodgers in the NLCS and I'd be surprised if the Dodgers didn't sweep.

To recap,

That's the Royals vs the Dodgers in the World Series.
Between those two teams, I'm taking LA 4-2.

:manny:

If the season ended today cubs would play the pirates for the wc.Cubs can beat the dodgers,pirates and mets in a series.Cardinals the only team I don't think they can beat in a series.

Royals vs Cardinals would happen before a subway series
 

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@Raul actually the wild card winner can play a team from their own division. In 2012 the Yankees had the best record in the AL and they ended up playing Baltimore in the 1st round
 

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If the season ended today cubs would play the pirates for the wc.Cubs can beat the dodgers,pirates and mets in a series.Cardinals the only team I don't think they can beat in a series.

Royals vs Cardinals would happen before a subway series
You may be right but I chose to ignore the Wild Card Play-In games for simplicity.
 

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@Raul actually the wild card winner can play a team from their own division. In 2012 the Yankees had the best record in the AL and they ended up playing Baltimore in the 1st round
That's interesting.
I was under the impression that the team with the best record in the league could not play the Wild Card winner in the 1st round.

Maybe I was wrong.
Or maybe it has something to do with the Rangers and Orioles finishing the season with the same record? I don't remember what happened back then.

Good point though
 

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Okay @thacole

So here's what I dug up on Wikipedia:

Major League Baseball postseason - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1994–2011: Three rounds[edit]
By 1994, further expansion was making it very difficult for a team to make the postseason. Major League Baseball went through a realignment, expanding to three divisions (Eastern, Central, Western) in each league. However, only allowing divisional winners in the postseason would make an odd number of teams in each league, three. To rectify the odd number of teams, the league added wild-cards to each league, imitating the original post-merger NFL system. The wild-card team would be the team with the best record in each league of all the teams that did not win their division. Splitting the leagues into three divisions, plus the addition of a wild-card team, doubled the postseason contenders in each league from two to four, and from four teams overall to eight. The additional teams meant another elimination round was necessary. This new round would become the new first round of the postseason, the best-of-five Division Series. This term had first been used for the extra round required in 1981 due to the "split-season" scheduling anomaly following the midseason baseball players strike. This format was in place for the 1994 season, but the players' strike canceled the postseason. The format was realized on the field in 1995.

Under this format, the wild card team played, in the Division Series, the division champion outside their own division that had the better record; and the remaining two teams from that league played each other in the other Division Series. The winners of the two Division Series from each league went on to play each other in the League Championship Series. As with the previous postseason format, the winners of each League Championship Series met in the World Series.

2012–present: Expanded wild card[edit]
With the adoption of the new collective bargaining agreement in November 2011, baseball commissioner Bud Selig announced that a new playoff system would begin within two years; the change was ultimately put into place in 2012.[1] The format chosen was the one-game Wild Card playoff.

Under this format, a second wild card team has been added to each league, i.e., the team with the second-highest win total in each league among non-division winners. The two wild card teams play in a one-game playoff after the end of the regular season, with the winner advancing to the Division Series. The divisional champions qualify for the Division Series just as in the previous format; however, under the expanded wild card format the winner of the one-game wild card playoff faces the top-seeded divisional champion in the Division Series, regardless of whether the two teams are in the same division, while the second- and third-seeded divisional champions play each other in the other Division Series. The format for placement in the League Championship Series and World Series remains.


So in 2012 there was rules change, and I guess I just never noticed. That explains Baltimore vs New York in 2012. I suppose this does change some of the match-ups above...but rather than re-type all that up, I'll say that I think the Royals and Dodgers are still probably going to reach the World Series.
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Well,

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Now you're talking about the National League.

This is actually a lot easier for 1 reason.
The Mets don't have the offense to compete.

If you're talking 2 years from now where the Mets run out a rotation of Harvey, deGrom, Syndergaard and Matz? That's the 1993 Atlanta Braves all over again and they're going to be scary good.
But unless they're gonna win every playoff game 2-1, I don't see it happening. Their main threats are Granderson, Duda and Cespedes...all of whom are extremely streaky hitters. I don't know how you rely on that in the playoffs. And they're not a great HR-hitting team, so I don't know how they overcome deficits against quality playoff pitching.

But here we go.
If the season ended today, the Mets would play the Cardinals and the Pirates would play the Dodgers.

In a best of 5 series...I actually believe the Mets could advance against St. Louis. For one thing, I believe the Cardinals are EXTREMELY lucky with their pitching staff. John Lackey is not this good. And neither is Lance Lynn. They just don't have the overpowering stuff and I have to believe eventually they're going to get smacked around. I realize Lynn has amazing numbers...his K/9 is unreal at 9.6 but having watched him pitch I don't get how he does it. He's given up relatively few HRs for his flyball percentage. James Shields has given up twice as many HR on a flyball percentage 4% lower. Lynn has to come back down to earth eventually.

Anyway, even if the Mets could take a 5-game series against the Cards, they'd likely have to face the Dodgers who I just think...with Kershaw and Greinke, are not going to lose to the Pirates. Gerrit Cole being as good as he is, the Pirates just can't win with Walker, Polanco and Harrison underperforming this year. And let's face it, Pedro Alvarez is a strikeout waiting to happen.

So you've got the Mets vs the Dodgers in the NLCS and I'd be surprised if the Dodgers didn't sweep.

To recap,

That's the Royals vs the Dodgers in the World Series.
Between those two teams, I'm taking LA 4-2.

:manny:
Lynn hasn't had a season with an ERA over 4 yet.

Had a lower ERA last season.

Had more than 9 Ks per 9 innings before in his career (2012), along with a career 8.9 Ks per 9 innings. So having 9 Ks per 9 innings is his average.

He's been better at his control limiting the walks, which has lowered his WHIP versus other seasons.

So no, Lynn is not pitching far beyond what he has done in his career.

And as was pointed out, the Cards will likely be playing the Cubs or 2nd Place NL West team in the Division Series.
 

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Lynn hasn't had a season with an ERA over 4 yet.

Had a lower ERA last season.
Had more than 9 Ks per 9 innings before in his career (2012), along with a career 8.9 Ks per 9 innings. So having 9 Ks per 9 innings is his average.
He's been better at his control limiting the walks, which has lowered his WHIP versus other seasons.
So no, Lynn is not pitching far beyond what he has done in his career.
And as was pointed out, the Cards will likely be playing the Cubs or 2nd Place NL West team in the Division Series.
I just don't get it.
His numbers are great across the board but watching him pitch, there's nothing exceptional about him to me.

Maybe it's who he plays.

Against teams with a .500 record or better, he's 1-4 this year with a 3.99 ERA.

For his career, he's 23-17 with a 3.89 ERA against teams with a .500 or better record.

Now for probably every pitcher, they're going to have worse stats against the best teams, but almost a full run higher?

:francis:

I mean compare that to say...Felix Hernandez.
2.92 ERA vs teams under .500
3.19 ERA vs teams over .500
 
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