A Time magazine cover enrages teachers — again

[Type Username Here]

The criticism about bad teachers is fueled by private industry, charter schools in particular. Public primary and secondary education receives $600 billion a year and private businesses want a part of that, or all of it. Charter schools save money with non-union teachers. So the union needs to go.

What surprises me is how incompetent the teachers unions are at fighting back. They could come up with some agreement that would allow school districts to easily fire of the bottom 1% who are child molesters, drug addicts, or psychotic, but instead they do nothing. They aren't even complaining about the Time Magazine story, they just don't like the cover.

Trust me, I know a lot of the criticism is about the demographics of teachers, the fact that conservatives and libertarians want education to be for those who can afford it only, and the schools are not capitalist enough (aka for profit). They so know that the teachers union would be a major step towards dismantling private unions. Like I said, see where they stand on police unions.

That being said, there are major issues in some of these public unions. If you are pro-union, you have to recognize this and push to fix the issues. Pretending it doesn't exist doesn't help anyone.

 

[Type Username Here]

Show me your posts and threads about police unions. I will wait.

I've seen a lot and heard a lot about teacher's unions and private unions from you, yet nothing on police unions. Not that I can recall at least.

Why is that?

 

[DEAD7]

Show me your posts and threads about police unions. I will wait.

I've seen a lot and heard a lot about teacher's unions and private unions from you, yet nothing on police unions. Not that I can recall at least.

Why is that?

I agree with what you're saying, but I think its fair to say that education is a much hotter topic at election time(than police unions), and the focus on it shouldn't really surprise anyone.

 

[Type Username Here]

I agree with what you're saying, but I think its fair to say that education is a much hotter topic at election time(than police unions), and the focus on it shouldn't really surprise anyone.

Police unions are keeping criminals on the street, keeping criminals collecting pension funds, protecting police executing citizens, protecting police departments violating the 4th amendment, yet a bad teacher is worse?

Let's just be real on why police unions get a pass. Have some credibility.

 

[DEAD7]

Police unions are keeping criminals on the street, keeping criminals collecting pension funds, protecting police executing citizens, protecting police departments violating the 4th amendment, yet a bad teacher is worse?

Let's just be real on why police unions get a pass. Have some credibility.

I don't think they get a pass, I think parading around how teacher unions are putting teacher employment over the education of our youth generates more votes... and lets be clear, votes are the name of the game. Politicians are not looking to solve the publics problems, they are looking to solve their own, of which getting elected is #1, and re-elected is #2. Whatever issues we have a distant 3.

A better question is what kind of reform could be made to right the police union? Its really a do or don't situation in America. Either they a have a union, which promotes and protects American "police culture"... or they dont. I dont think you can do anything legislatively to change the cultural aspect of law enforcement in this country...
I say privatize law enforcement cant be worse than having niqqas executed in the middle of the street like we have now under the state.



*and to clarify what I mean by police culture, I mean the whitey good/darky bad sentiment thats at its core. It branches out into all kinds of discriminatory f*ckery, but thats the basic idea.

 

[Type Username Here]

I don't think they get a pass, I think parading around how teacher unions are putting teacher employment over the education of our youth generates more votes... and lets be clear, votes are the name of the game. Politicians are not looking to solve the publics problems, they are looking to solve their own, of which getting elected is #1, and re-elected is #2. Whatever issues we have a distant 3.

A better question is what kind of reform could be made to right the police union? Its really a do or don't situation in America. Either they a have a union, which promotes and protects American "police culture"... or they dont. I dont think you can do anything legislatively to change the cultural aspect of law enforcement in this country...
I say privatize law enforcement cant be worse than having niqqas executed in the middle of the street like we have now under the state.



*and to clarify what I mean by police culture, I mean the whitey good/darky bad sentiment thats at its core. It branches out into all kinds of discriminatory f*ckery, but thats the basic idea.

Privatization of police? Seriously?

These private prisons and private contractors in Iraq don't give you any cause for additional concern? They are already going to be afforded by the law and government the same authority as government police, so things wouldn't change on that front.

 

[DEAD7]

Privatization of police? Seriously?

These private prisons and private contractors in Iraq don't give you any cause for additional concern? They are already going to be afforded by the law and government the same authority as government police, so things wouldn't change on that front.

Sure they do, but I have to weigh them against state law enforcement... and it isnt a landslide either way. I just believe the accountability to be higher on the private side

I'm not saying private would be the sh*t or just what we need. I'm saying I think it would be better than the kill darky state run law enforcement.

 

[Type Username Here]

Sure they do, but I have to weigh them against state law enforcement... and it isnt a landslide either way. I just believe the accountability to be higher on the private side

I'm not saying private would be the sh*t or just what we need. I'm saying I think it would be better than the kill darky state run law enforcement.

As opposed to the kill darky private neighborhood watch? I don't understand your reasoning.

 

[DEAD7]

As opposed to the kill darky private neighborhood watch? I don't understand your reasoning.

If the two would produce the same or similar results, the option that offers higher accountability and the most transparency is the way to go... IMHO.

 

[Box Cutta]

I'm completely willing to trade teachers unions for police officer unions.

Get rid of them both. Fair trade for me.

 

[Strapped]

it all starts at home :however we do have alot of bad teachers

 

[Strapped]

we need more black male teachers in the classrooms

 

[GunRanger]

A lot of the criticism is valid about firing bad teachers.

On a side note, I do have a question: Why do they never mention police unions? Why do conservatives, libertarians and the media remain silent on police unions? They are worse by far. I always found it strange why that is.

http://reason.com/archives/2014/09/02/four-issue-to-focus-on-in-police-brutali/2


Libertarians focus on the police themselves. Republicans and Democrats need them to get elected. It's way you won't see democrats shyt on teacher's unions.


Public unions are a blight on society.

 

[Mr Bubbles]

we need more black male teachers in the classrooms

I've had shytty luck with black male teachers, breh. Most of my black female teachers were cool though.

 

[TruStyle]

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Putting my thoughts into words.