A Wiseman Told Me Never Argue With Fools: Official 2021 Warriors Season Thread

[Roland Coltrane]

nikkas aint give ayton or bagley time to develop into as good of players as luka so whats the difference

but in all seriousness I actually don't even dislike wiseman I didn't come at him until the bozo got extra defensive and sensitive for no reason, all I said initially was you can still believe in wiseman without acting like they just HAD to pass up on lamelo because he wouldnt fit, that's disingenuous and a lazy take

I think wiseman has the potential to develop into a great player and im definitely not rooting against him, however, lamelo is looking like a generational talent and putting up numbers rivaled by only rookie luka and lebron as a starter and he's only going to get better.. if the goal is to make the most out of the last years klay and steph have of their primes how does drafting a potential multi year project help that? lamelo could have helped in the interim AND in the future

Ok breh you got it I quit

 

[Consumed]

read my earlier post in the thread where I referenced the Spurs

Difference is, Spurs drafted players who fit the theory of their team

Wiseman doesn't fit Warriors basketball. Melo fits Warriors (and Spurs for that matter) basketball far more so Wiseman.

Not trying to belabor the point. Can't turn back time. I hope he turns the corner ASAP for the sake of a team trying to compete.

 

[Don Homer]

can y'all nikkas give Wiseman some time cotdamn


maybe, just maybe when it's all said and done the picks will work out for both teams


this is like some pre-emptive stan wars shyt

they came into different circumstances, play different positions, and are going to be asked to fulfill different roles

19 year old kid played 3 games in college, missed some time this year due to covid and injury, and you BBB nikkas ready to declare the trajectory and narrative of his career.

True

 

[Don Homer]

In some more positive news

 

[khross415]

In some more positive news

them nikkas really took off after that 1st game

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Difference is, Spurs drafted players who fit the theory of their team

Wiseman doesn't fit Warriors basketball. Melo fits Warriors (and Spurs for that matter) basketball far more so Wiseman.

Not trying to belabor the point. Can't turn back time. I hope he turns the corner ASAP for the sake of a team trying to compete.

act like Kerr didn't get a lot of his coaching philosphy winning chips under with Tim Duncan and David Robinson under Pop brehs


the members of the Neva Lost congregation basically in this thread for the sole purpose of stanning and puffing their chests out about LaMelo and it's transparent as hell


you gonna have to wait longer til halfway through a rookie season to fire off all those I-told-you-so's
cuz right now y'all are coming off really reactionary and in the moment

 

[FaTaL]

In some more positive news

Any players we should be looking at not named smiley?

 

[Consumed]

act like Kerr didn't get a lot of his coaching philosphy winning chips under with Tim Duncan and David Robinson under Pop brehs


the members of the Neva Lost congregation basically in this thread for the solel purpose of stanning and puffing their chests out about LaMelo and it's transparent as hell


you gonna have to wait longer til halfway through a rookie season to fire off all those I-told-you-so's
cuz right now y'all are coming off really reactionary and in the moment

I want the Warriors to have the best chance at competing for championships.

That simple. Don't care to get into a stan debate of any sort. Only talking basketball.

 

[threattonature]

Difference is, Spurs drafted players who fit the theory of their team

Wiseman doesn't fit Warriors basketball. Melo fits Warriors (and Spurs for that matter) basketball far more so Wiseman.

Not trying to belabor the point. Can't turn back time. I hope he turns the corner ASAP for the sake of a team trying to compete.

The same Warriors basketball that had Javale starting? The Warriors offense is flexible. Having a rim running center can collapse the defense and open up shooters or cutters.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

I want the Warriors to have the best chance at competing for championships.

That simple. Don't care to get into a stan debate of any sort. Only talking basketball.

Wiseman runs like a gazelle, has pogo stick jumping ability, has shown he can develop into a consistent outside and midrange shooter, blocks shots, already has elite agility for his size, but somehow he's a bad fit?



again where was Lamelo supposed to fit when Dray has been the facilitator?



You cats making this out to be a Sam Bowie/MJ situation gonna be looking dumb down the line

 

[Consumed]

The same Warriors basketball that had Javale starting? The Warriors offense is flexible. Having a rim running center can collapse the defense and open up shooters or cutters.

The same Warriors basketball that had Javale playing limited spot minutes.

Hard to be a great rim running center when you struggle to catch the ball cleanly. That is part of the concerns for Wiseman.

 

[FaTaL]

The same Warriors basketball that had Javale playing limited spot minutes.

Hard to be a great rim running center when you struggle to catch the ball cleanly. That is part of the concerns for Wiseman.

I don’t see a issue, those passes he misses are passes that he doesn’t expect. Also some of passes are thrown too hard at a close distance. It’s not like he’s Adonal Foyle or dampier

 

[Consumed]

Wiseman runs like a gazelle, has pogo stick jumping ability, has shown he can develop into a consistent outside and midrange shooter, blocks shots, already has elite agility for his size, but somehow he's a bad fit?



again where was Lamelo supposed to fit when Dray has been the facilitator?



You cats making this out to be a Sam Bowie/MJ situation gonna be looking dumb down the line

Yes, because he is bad at setting screens. Has bad awareness. Has bad hands and isn't a good passer. He also hasn't been good at defending in space. Notice how you listed all of those attributes and yet Kevon Looney is a better player for what the Warriors need.

This is like asking where was Iguodala supposed to fit when Draymond was the facilitator. The Warriors are not predicated on one player running the offense. They have relied on multiple ball handlers who can make decisions off the dribble and Melo fits into that theory seamlessly.

Nobody said Melo is MJ. Nobody said Wiseman is Bowie either.

 

[Consumed]

I don’t see a issue, those passes he misses are passes that he doesn’t expect. Also some of passes are thrown too hard at a close distance. It’s not like he’s Adonal Foyle or dampier

He also bobbles passes that he is staring directly at and just fumbles them. He also bobbles loose balls and rebounds. It's a real problem for him.

 

[Flex Luger]

Do ppl really think Draymond throws games on purpose bc he’s paying LeBron?

Only that dumbass dude thinks that