Smitty Belafonte
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Oubre gotta go. It can't be ignored anymore.
I was holding on but it’s time. His IQ is fukking horrible. He just doesn’t fit on this team and his shot selection and timing is disgusting to watch.
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I was holding on but it’s time. His IQ is fukking horrible. He just doesn’t fit on this team and his shot selection and timing is disgusting to watch.
sidenikkagawd
We want all the smoke
Imma let em slide cuz it was a back 2 backYeah, I tuned out last night at the start of the 3rd, it was late and we obviously didn't bring it.
Dubs in 6
They've been struggling defensively either way. It would help if they could set their defense instead of watching Green and Oubre throw up bricks left and right. You aren't giving any reasonable excuse not to try it.
BlaqkSpliffin
Ni**as Still Weird - Me
They're 15th in defense (probably lower after last night) and that's only cause Wiggins and Wiseman have alot of blocked shots, the on ball defense has been solid, and they have active hands so they get turnovers. Every other metric is mediocre to just bad.
This idea that you have to keep Oubre in because "he plays defense" is silly as fukk lmao
Bazemore should probably start over him just for the simple fact he can hit perimeter shots right now and has a higher bball IQ. Wiggins outta the second unit for Oubre has hurt them too cause Oubre not great their either and the bench needs another scorer.
nikka, you better sit your dumbass down.
I was forecasting Steph/Draymond and that core for greatness before you were even hip to your own team. In fact, you weren't even on this muh'fukkin board. I said during preseason that the lack of shooting/spacing and BBIQ was going to be this team's downfall, and look at what's happening now. This is why I said they needed to use that pick to bring in player(s) who fit Warriors culture.
And like I need to reiterate, Deni is a representation of what they need, it's not about him specifically. They should've traded that pick for experienced depth, for players that know or can be sculpted into playing 'winning basketball'. Not used on a big man who's so far away from being whatever the fukk it is y'all think he's going to be.
And yes, Paschall is a cotdamn bum; he's a volume scorer and nothing else. Your ass is gonna wake up sooner or later.
A lot of their defensive struggles on defense were because of Wiseman. He's no longer in the starting lineup.
I'm not giving you any reasonable excuse?
You want Kerr to take out the player that Myers mortgaged the team's immediate future on just to slide in a fringe NBA player, who can't defend, and would be eaten alive if he tried to put the ball on the floor regularly against starters? What is that supposed to acheive? Lee will be lucky if he's on an NBA roster in 2-3 years' time.
He just went 0-3 for ZERO points in 18 minutes in the last game
He just came off a string of games where he averaged 2 points, on 21 FG% and 10 three-point%.
Is that the guy you're really putting your faith to come into the starting lineup to move the needle?
I hate to break it to you, but blocking shots =/= defense.They're 15th in defense (probably lower after last night) and that's only cause Wiggins and Wiseman have alot of blocked shots, the on ball defense has been solid, and they have active hands so they get turnovers. Every other metric is mediocre to just bad.
For every blocked shot that Wiseman has, he's giving up 4-5 baskets; he's been a nightmare for the Warriors on that side of the ball. The other starters were keeping the defense afloat, while he was drowning it, single-handedly. Thinking that he was capable of starting was one of Kerr's oversights, and one of a lot of y'all dudes on here.
And yet he's still a better defender than Lee. Go figure.
Bazemore has been playing better because he's up against second units in limited minutes. He's not on the floor long enough against good players where all his flaws are on full display. He's a worse version of Oubre; he's not a starter. There was a reason why the Hawks took him out of the starting lineup and eventually traded him; there's a reason why he came off the bench for the Kings and Trailblazers. I seriously don't know what the hell y'all think will change if he or anyone comes in for Oubre - this team simply does not have the depth where they can bench him and suddenly things will be better.
Unless they can trade Oubre, they aren't in any position to bench him when the alternatives aren't any better.
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Cats really serious about starting Lee or Bazemore....
That should tell you everything bout the state the roster is in, and what chances this team has at making the playoffs.
That should tell you everything bout the state the roster is in, and what chances this team has at making the playoffs.
The same game Oubre went 1-11? That's the game you want to point out?
Shooting percentages last ten games for each:
Lee - 46%/35%
Oubre - 38%/30%
Like I said, you have no reasonable excuse for wanting to keep Oubre in there. His trash shooting leads to fast break opportunities for the other team. They can't have him and Green on the court for any extended periods because they are both brick layers. Lee at least gives the team the possibility of making some open threes so they can set their defense. He also won't make selfish plays like Oubre does.
That's precisely the point. Which is why putting Lee in there ain't going to be any better. Oubre can't get it going against starters; Lee can't get it going against second units. Yet you're suggesting Lee should come into the starting lineup....The same game Oubre went 1-11? That's the game you want to point out?
And are you going to take into account volume and what calibre of players these shooting percentages are against?
Whatever "open threes" he makes will be negated by his lack of defense (worst out of all wings in the rotation) and inability to put the ball on the floor. Even despite how bad Oubre has been playing, he still gives them the best possible chance of winning, which speaks volumes as to what state the roster is in where Oubre is the best option they have. There's the slightest glimmer of hope he can turn it around, or he can at least bring his game to an even level to help this team reach the playoffs, but I can guarantee you right now, that Lee in place of him will lead to nothing.
Absolutely cotdamn nothing.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
We’re learning what we already knew: nobody wanted to trade for picks in the lottery except for the Celtics.nikka, you better sit your dumbass down.
I was forecasting Steph/Draymond and that core for greatness before you were even hip to your own team. In fact, you weren't even on this muh'fukkin board. I said during preseason that the lack of shooting/spacing and BBIQ was going to be this team's downfall, and look at what's happening now. This is why I said they needed to use that pick to bring in player(s) who fit Warriors culture.
And like I need to reiterate, Deni is a representation of what they need, it's not about him specifically. They should've traded that pick for experienced depth, for players that know or can be sculpted into playing 'winning basketball'. Not used on a big man who's so far away from being whatever the fukk it is y'all think he's going to be.
And yes, Paschall is a cotdamn bum; he's a volume scorer and nothing else. Your ass is gonna wake up sooner or later.
A lot of their defensive struggles on defense were because of Wiseman. He's no longer in the starting lineup.
I'm not giving you any reasonable excuse?
You want Kerr to take out the player that Myers mortgaged the team's immediate future on just to slide in a fringe NBA player, who can't defend, and would be eaten alive if he tried to put the ball on the floor regularly against starters? What is that supposed to acheive? Lee will be lucky if he's on an NBA roster in 2-3 years' time.
He just went 0-3 for ZERO points in 18 minutes in the last game
He just came off a string of games where he averaged 2 points, on 21 FG% and 10 three-point%.
Is that the guy you're really putting your faith to come into the starting lineup to move the needle?
I hate to break it to you, but blocking shots =/= defense.
For every blocked shot that Wiseman has, he's giving up 4-5 baskets; he's been a nightmare for the Warriors on that side of the ball. The other starters were keeping the defense afloat, while he was drowning it, single-handedly. Thinking that he was capable of starting was one of Kerr's oversights, and one of a lot of y'all dudes on here.
If you see Wiseman as a trade asset, he has the ability to come close to having the same appeal as the Sonics’ pick. Avdija does not.
Oubre gotta go. No more caping. he gotta go. he has to leave the warriors. he must depart with golden state. he must play on a team that isnt the golden state warriors. he must put on a jersey that doesnt have the words "oakland", :"bay", "town". "warriors" on it.
Bigb41513
I ain’t lying we real San Francisco giants
I did that trade machine, and the warriors can do oubre wiseman for Beal. I’m sure the wolves pick would be involved. Would we wanna do this? I don’t know if that been talked about in here.
Money wise that doesn’t work and there not trading wiseman, they have nobody upfront next year
Im not for trading Wiseman. He has his drawbacks right now but you can see some progress. Hes learning how to use verticality when defending drives, and hes forced a number of misses that way. His timing isn't great for shot blocking but he still gets his share. At this point I'd rather play out what we have and be competitive while building for the future with Wiseman and the next pick.
One of the key components to the dynasty was Stephs cheap contract due to his earlier injuries. We just won't have the roster flexibility to jump start the team into a sure championship contender. They can still win and compete, but I dont think there is anything they can do to make the roster into THE favored contender with the salaries as they are.
One of the key components to the dynasty was Stephs cheap contract due to his earlier injuries. We just won't have the roster flexibility to jump start the team into a sure championship contender. They can still win and compete, but I dont think there is anything they can do to make the roster into THE favored contender with the salaries as they are.
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