According to Universal, Dr. Dre's assistant producer Mike Elizondo penned Eminem's "Real Slim Shady"

[andre patton]

i find it odd he got writing credits on the track...but not production credits. if anything he prolly helped with the chorus or some shyt...or told em to switch a few words around here and there. that track is quintessential eminiem so its had to believe any one else wrote the verses. Tommy Coster received production credits for the track, along with dre.

but on in da club, mike received both writing credits AND production credits.

Mike is amazing on the bass. Would love Dre to get back in the booth with Mike, Scott and Mel Man again.

dapped. those were probably his 3 most talented musicians/producers thru out dre's career.

 

[Headcase]

uhh... mike elizondo is probably more famously known for being a great bass player. he's been featured in many musician magazine(I'm talking shop magazine not gossip shyt) solely for his bass playing. he probably wrote the bassline/helped with the music.

Thats exactly what he did. Em says it in the "Angry Blonde" book.

 

[Calmye]

So he didn't write one of the worse tacks of his career

 

[vampire xtc]

this guy was ghost producing for dre for YEARS back in the day

its nice his name is getting more out there

 

[prophecypro]

Producers, instrumental guys get listed with writing credits for songs as well even if they didn't actually write the lyrics

At least from my understanding.

Doesn't stop folks from getting it twisted though . Thanks Dream Hampton

 

[SunZoo]

Yea and Doug E. Fresh "penned" Rap God.

 

[Mac Casper]

how was that ems breakout single?

forget putting out slim shady lp brehs

"Real Slim Shady" really helped him cross over into the pop stratosphere

Mike is amazing on the bass. Would love Dre to get back in the booth with Mike, Scott and Mel Man again.

Mike is the bass man . . Scott was the key man . . Dre was the visionary/quality control - . . . what exactly was Mel-Man's role?

i find it odd he got writing credits on the track...but not production credits. if anything he prolly helped with the chorus or some shyt...or told em to switch a few words around here and there. that track is quintessential eminiem so its had to believe any one else wrote the verses. Tommy Coster received production credits for the track, along with dre.

but on in da club, mike received both writing credits AND production credits.



dapped. those were probably his 3 most talented musicians/producers thru out dre's career.

Laying down an original bassline would be considered "songwriting"

So he didn't write one of the worse tacks of his career

It's arguably the most successful song in hip-hop history


On this song we have Mike Elizondo, Tommy Coster and Dr. Dre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Coster

 

[andre patton]

"Real Slim Shady" really helped him cross over into the pop stratosphere


Mike is the bass man . . Scott was the key man . . Dre was the visionary/quality control - . . . what exactly was Mel-Man's role?



Laying down an original bassline would be considered "songwriting"



It's arguably the most successful song in hip-hop history


On this song we have Mike Elizondo, Tommy Coster and Dr. Dre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Coster

did not know that.

from: What Constitutes Songwriting?

Generally speaking, any significant contribution to melody, lyrics, or structure typically counts as songwriting.

We generally think of a songwriter with their guitar writing the songs and strumming chords, and the melody coming from a combination of those chords and the vocal. But a signature guitar riff (like Keith’s famous lick in “Satisfaction” or the riff in “Smoke on the Water”) might count as songwriting. Or the bass line on Queen’s “Another One Bites the Dust”, or drum intro on their classic “We Will Rock You”. It’s hard to imagine these songs with any other bass line or drum beat, and they form as much of the structure and in fact melody of the songs as the guitar and vocals.

but it also goes on to say...

However — generally speaking — adding a guitar solo or drumbeat or organ over an existing song structure (and not contributing to the actual structure or melody of the song) is not typically considered songwriting. As you can see, what constitutes songwriting is very much a question of degree.

so whatever mike did...if it wasnt apart of the lyrics it must've been instrumental to the melody.

 

[Born2BKing]

That can mean anything man. Did he help with the hook, did he write a 16, did he tell Em to change a tone in a word...

He didn't write no 16 for Em lol. Prolly helped with the hook or some shyt.

 

[Mac Casper]

He didn't write no 16 for Em lol. Prolly helped with the hook or some shyt.

It's kinda magic because it's one of those hooks that on paper . . when presented to you by an old white dude looks like it's gonna be corny as fukk

I'm Slim Shady
Yes . . . I'm the real shady
All you other Slim Shady's
Are just imitating

Read that in a slow white man voice with some reading glasses on as if you're presenting it to a young artist and going over the wording

 

[gluvnast]

More likely got credit for writing the music for the song. Not the lyrics per'se. Possibly credit for the bassline.

 

[SunZoo]

Look at all these excuses in this thread for this CAC but but but kanye has ghost writers look at the album credits

fukking dummies

Kanye has a ton of writing credits from other rappers that actually rap. Rhymefest was performing Jesus walks before he was

Mike Elizondo ain't got no bars nikka

It's kinda magic because it's one of those hooks that on paper . . when presented to you by an old white dude looks like it's gonna be corny as fukk

I'm Slim Shady
Yes . . . I'm the real shady
All you other Slim Shady's
Are just imitating

Read that in a slow white man voice with some reading glasses on as if you're presenting it to a young artist and going over the wording

Should copy and paste this in one of those talk buddy joints

 

[DaveyDave]

did not know that.

from: What Constitutes Songwriting?



but it also goes on to say...



so whatever mike did...if it wasnt apart of the lyrics it must've been instrumental to the melody.

he wrote & performed the bassline, that's integral to the song. it's not some little incidental thing at the end of the song so obviously it counts as writing as far as credits go.

 

[spliz]

it doesnt mean he wrote the rhymes....

 

[spliz]

Artists have raw talent, you can hear this in their come up. But when they're signed, more educated and/or experienced ghostwriters help format their raw material into more polished and appealing song structures. They're like "script doctors" in Hollywood. They don't come up with the creative material, they fit it into a proven formula.

Because we know Eminem has lyrical capability no question, it's more likely these guys are helping with the framework.

That dude didnt write the lyrics..hes not that kind of a writer..he's a musical writer..something Em had nothing to do with..