Aframs' manipulation of wind instruments is next level

[IllmaticDelta]

Related thread by @Supper talking about the bias to european/western theory


https://www.thecoli.com/threads/music-theory-and-white-supremacy.803988/


this thread showcases how a whole other musical language was created by disregarding classical/european technique

aframs have transposed this technique to all wind instruments

We just to damn cold, we naturally drip so much soul others steal it and bottle it up

I mean look at this vid

 

[skylove4]

Related thread by @Supper talking about the bias to european/western theory


https://www.thecoli.com/threads/music-theory-and-white-supremacy.803988/


this thread showcases how a whole other musical language was created by disregarding classical/european technique

aframs have transposed this technique to all wind instruments

I’m not a musician at all but I am a lover of music, with a very eclectic taste.

There is just something about the music our people produce that touches your soul unlike other peoples, it’s just simply the best and amazing

 

[IllmaticDelta]

They in essence make these wind instruments "Talk" or "Speak" with a human voice like quality by eschewing European technique

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UHOP shout bands took this next level

Sound
Shout Music is a type of gospel music characterized by very fast tempo, chromatic basslines, snare hits and hand claps on the upbeat of each beat. The organ typically plays dominant 7 chords while improvising over blues riffs. The pianist typically plays counter rhythms to the established rhythmic structure. There are many variations of this particular style of music. Often gospel artists will break into Shout Music at the end of a song or as a finale. Shout Music is used as a bed for vocal riffing and calling out of catch phrases, or "shouting."

While shout bands became prevalent during the 1920s and 1930s, by the 1960s the trombone, which allows for a wide range of emotive expression, emerged as the lead instrument within the shout band. Large groups of trombones are treated almost as a vocal choir, each with its own part.

Upbeat and engaging, shout band music consists of three sections: the recitive and call, which involves a musical statement from the trombones; the aria, which develops the melody and tempo; and the shout, the ending call-and-response. As the song progresses, the sound intensifies from a whisper at the beginning to an exuberant crescendo during the shout.

Technique
The actual sound that is produced by playing is different from the strict and predesignated sound of most music. Shout band music is made to closely emulate the exact sound and techniques used by the voices of singers and choirs, including but not limited to vibratos, slurs, and glissandi. This is the primary reason that a trombone is typically found as the lead instrument.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Inhaling the Blues: How Southern Black Musicians Transformed the Harmonica

In the early 20th-century, southern black musicians found the devil in the harmonica. The cheap and portable instrument was made by Germans for use in traditional European waltzes and marches, but when it made its way to America’s Southern neighborhoods, black musicians began to develop a totally new way of playing, which bent the harmonica’s sound (quite literally) to fit the style of the country’s increasingly popular “devil’s music,” or rather, the blues

What inspired this album?

As a teacher, I found the harmonica to have one of the most interesting traditions. When African Americans picked up the instrument in the 20th-century, they completely transformed it into something it had never been intended to be played as in Europe. To me, that is such a remarkable demonstration of the power of tradition. You don’t just take and play an instrument the way it was built to be played. The music is inside you, and you take that instrument and you try to recreate the way you think music should be played. That’s what African Americans did.

How was the harmonica originally intended to be played?

The harmonica is a transverse reed instrument that was invented in Germany in the 19th-century by clock makers. There are many different kinds, but the one that took off was made by Hohner, who started to mass produce his models. Harmonicas come in a variety of keys, and they are created to be played in those keys—so if you have a C harmonica, you play in the key of C by blowing through the reeds.

What did African American musicians change?

African American traditions use a different scale than European traditions, so they could not play some of their notes on the harmonica. That is, until someone figured out that you could bend a harmonica’s notes. If you play a harmonica backwards—that is, suck air in, in what is now called “cross harp” or “second position”—you can take notes and force them down a pitch or two. It’s really a completely different technique. It coincides with this love for instruments to sound like the voice, to make the instrument say what you say, and to make it warmer, more expressive of the voice’s emotional timbres. In the blues, a harmonica can cry and whoop and holler.

Inhaling the Blues: How Southern Black Musicians Transformed the Harmonica | At the Smithsonian | Smithsonian Magazine



On the Harmonica this style/technique is known as CrossHarp

Also known as “second position playing,” cross harp is a system that originated with the blues and that has expanded into other genres. Cross harp is a system where a diatonic harmonica tuned to a key a fourth (five half steps) higher than the song’s key is used. For example, for a song in the key of G, a diatonic C harmonica would be used. This results in the harmonica playing a blues scale with a flatted seventh (in our example, the flat 7 is an F), and draw notes that can be bent for additional expression.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Can we get a string music thread in the future

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Can we get a string music thread in the future

I was thinking about doing one on the piano/organ/keys

 

[K.O.N.Y]

I was thinking about doing one on the piano/organ/keys

Yea I actually meant that one first

main thing that really separates ados from the diaspora is our prowess with keys

I could be wrong

but I’ve never heard about piano playing in the rest of the diaspora

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Yea I actually meant that one first

main thing that really separates ados from the diaspora is our prowess with keys

I would say any instrument that can have the blues vocabulary applied; you weren't off about the stringed instruments, just look at what aframs did with the guitar and bass

I could be wrong

but I’ve never heard about piano playing in the rest of the diaspora

The only real afro-piano/keys tradition outside of ados is afro-cubans. Nuyoricans use alot of the cuban piano style in salsa music.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

As far as the keys thread

im fascinated on how aframs changed and deviated from the European-classical sound. And made that the staple to run with

you need to make that thread. And put that in the locker room not the root

@IllmaticDelta

Also a thread on how ados musicians became the centerpiece of modern music in mainstream global pop culture

Its my understanding that Josephine baker was the first global diasporan star in the modern age. I say that with a ?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

As far as the keys thread

im fascinated on how aframs changed and deviated from the European-classical sound. And made that the staple to run with

you need to make that thread. And put that in the locker room not the root

@IllmaticDelta

Also a thread on how ados musicians became the centerpiece of modern music in mainstream global pop culture

Its my understanding that Josephine baker was the first global diasporan star in the modern age. I say that with a ?

Depends what you mean by modern age. If you mean during the era of modern recording via film and records? She's probably the first.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Depends what you mean by modern age. If you mean during the era of modern recording via film and records? She's probably the first.

basically
what was the first instance to make afram musical traditions global. Through entertainers

 

[IllmaticDelta]

basically
what was the first instance to make afram musical traditions global. Through entertainers

Fisk Jubilee Singers

 

[ThatTruth777]

gonna check this out later

 

[IllmaticDelta]

 

[King]

I’ve been digging heavily into Malian and West African blues - it’s both influenced by and is a precursor to the music we forged in the US. There was a series of mini cultural revolutions from the 50s-70s where African nations adopted a pan-Africanist musical coalition. Citing black musicians and institutions from not only the United States, but also Latin America.

Very interesting to hear, almost all of Cuban/Latin American music is directly tied to traditional West African roots.

The connection is inspiring on both sides of a shared musical identity.