Africa has its first white leader since FW de Klerk

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didn't say it wasn't.

I'm talking about the issue of "multiculturalism" etc in non-western governments

Fact is, I don't ever see a black leader in Europe anytime soon.

America is truly unique in that aspect.

Europe wasn't colonized so duh
 

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yeah, but its like the whole "democracy" argument for non-democratic governments...its a mixed bag around the world.

No one likes discrimination, but this would never happen in say... China.

There are a lot of truly homogenous societies that make no qualms about maintaining their "image"

Which is exactly why i don't think it's appropriate for a white guy to be a leader in Africa.

But if he was born there and that is really what the people wan't idk...
 

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Because he was born there?
So what? The article already partially explains the legality of his position and I clearly wasn't arguing that. Being legally qualified to hold political office doesn't mean that it's right. Don't be dense.

I'm talking about the symbolic gesture of allowing this man to become the leader of the country when he is 1 percent of it's stock. Why would a black populace allow for a descendant of colonizers to become a leader, even if only temporary, of their country? What does it say about them (And us), that this happened? I think it's just more weakness and incompetence on our behalf....

Glad it's only 90 fukking days.

How do you feel about the Dominican Republic? And how it's presidents look as opposed to it's populace? You're cool with it "because they were born there"?
 

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So what? The article already partially explains the legality of his position and I clearly wasn't arguing that. Being legally qualified to hold political office doesn't mean that it's right. Don't be dense.

I'm talking about the symbolic gesture of allowing this man to become the leader of the country when he is 1 percent of it's stock. Why would a black populace allow for a descendant of colonizers to become a leader, even if only temporary, of their country? What does it say about them (And us), that this happened? I think it's just more weakness and incompetence on our behalf....

Glad it's only 90 fukking days.

It says that the president died unexpectedly. Nothing about Black people.

And our? When did you become a Zambian citizen? And Guy Scott is by all accounts a good White man who has gone out of his way to denounce his White privilege. Miss me with the 5th grade colonizer narrative. They will hold elections by January and a Black man will most likely be President. Doesn't mean he will be good so miss me with the outrage, as well.
 

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Until alot more European countries have black leaders like a Prime Minister of the UK...

White people have no business being President in any part of Africa.
Honestly i don't see that happening. Mostly because unlike the U.S, (although, not really,) politicians who rise to the rank of prime minister in the U.K almost all come from rich backgrounds, and attend the same rich schools and stuff growing up. And honestly mosy Black Brits are poor or barely middle class, and definitely not sending their kids off to the type of schools that produce top politicians. I think the U.K would elect someone who is Black, but honestly there are just not enough Black Brits who even think about politics as a career.
 

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It says that the president died unexpectedly. Nothing about Black people.

And our? When did you become a Zambian citizen? And Guy Scott is by all accounts a good White man who has gone out of his way to denounce his White privilege. Miss me with the 5th grade colonizer narrative. They will hold elections by January and a Black man will most likely be President. Doesn't mean he will be good so miss me with the outrage, as well.

And no, what it says is that we (Yes *we*, as in black people, a race, worldwide), as is typical, seem to play by a different set of rules than everyone else. Once again, you're just being literal for the sake of....humanism? I'm really not sure.

"Our" as in Black People. C'mon. But I'm a little skeptical of your logic. On one hand it's humanist and liberal to feel as though everyone can be representative of everyone, and everyone can speak for everyone, and this is fine because "we are the world". But imply solidarity amongst black people and you rely on wedging nationality between us?


Electing a bad leader is an entirely different matter, plenty have done it but most have not allowed for ultra-minorities to rule their people, even if only for a short amount of time.

Might be a good dude. Hell, he might be a saint. But I can't be a saint in India, or China, or Norway, or Chile, or anywhere else and expect for this type of position to come to me, because other groups don't tolerate that type of shyt. We do. That's my sole issue.
 

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If the Zambian people don't care about his skin color. Why are you people making an issue out of it? Are you living in Zambia? Are you Zambian? :what: I bet you can't tell me one thing about their culture.

They expect race riots the day after their BLACK president died unexpectedly, as if they didn't know VP assumes duties until a new election :what:

nikkas, I tell you. Always easily distracted and outraged over dumb shyt :snoop:
 

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Yes *we*, as in black people, a race, worldwide

Which gives you a seat at the table to tell Zambians right and wrong, why?

"Our" as in Black People. C'mon. But I'm a little skeptical of your logic. On one hand it's humanist and liberal to feel as though everyone can be representative of everyone, and everyone can speak for everyone, and this is fine because "we are the world". But imply solidarity amongst black people and you rely on wedging nationality between us?

Its solidarity to trust my fellow Black man if they say everything is okay.

Electing a bad leader is an entirely different matter, plenty have done it but most have not allowed for ultra-minorities to rule their people, even if only for a short amount of time.

Zambia isn't Kenya or Ethiopia or Nigeria with its tribal politics and thank god.


Might be a good dude. Hell, he might be a saint. But I can't be a saint in India, or China, or Norway, or Chile, or anywhere else and expect for this type of position to come to me, because other groups don't tolerate that type of shyt. We do. That's my sole issue.

Only 1 of those countries is even ideal. Who wants to be like India or Chile? wtf
 
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