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"African Americans are the biggest culture vultures in music " - Melle Mel
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IllmaticDelta
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GTFO....jazz ain't got sh1t to do with Haitians
jazz was born in the uptown section of new orleans to people with gospel, blues and ragtime traditions. The guy that birthed this mix/new sound was Buddy Bolden whose people came from Virginia
from the musicians who were there during the first generation of Jazz' creation on how/where it was invented
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GoAggieGo.
getting blitzed.
Uh oh.
Facts are being presented, and just like in the Garvey thread, posters will start to scatter and abandon thread
Facts are being presented, and just like in the Garvey thread, posters will start to scatter and abandon thread
Willie D is a trained boxer who did golden gloves. Mel was just a nikka who lifted weights. Trained fighters will when 99% of the time.
IllmaticDelta
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GTFO....jazz ain't got sh1t to do with Haitians
jazz was born in the uptown section of new orleans to people with gospel, blues and ragtime traditions. The guy that birthed this mix/new sound was Buddy Bolden whose people came from Virginia
from the musicians who were there during the first generation of Jazz' creation on how/where it was invented
Bro I haven't been able to find any evidence of some "haitian or cuban" sailor musician crap they say influnced music in New Orleans particular of black americans. Have you?
This rhythm the Tressillo LITERALLY means triplet in spanish.............That's it.
Triplet rhythms are literally found ALL over africa, including north africa and in Gypsy music in spain. So, how the hell do they think we got something as basic and widespread as that from some damn mostly white and mulatto haitian immigrants in New Orleans?
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IllmaticDelta
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Bro I haven't been able to find any evidence of some "haitian or cuban" sailor musician crap they say influnced music in New Orleans particular of black americans. Have you?
This rhythm the Tressillo LITERALLY means triplet in spanish.............That's it.
Triplet rhythms are literally found ALL over africa, including north africa and in Gypsy music in spain. So, they the hell do they think we got something as basic and widespread as that from some damn mostly white and mulatto haitian immigrants in New Orleans?
because it never happened...it was bs conjecture that white jazz historians pushed in a attempt to de-afroamericanize Jazz' origins that always falls apart when you listen to the oral account of the first generation of jazz pioneers. repost below
The lengths many white jazz writers and even some latino critics will go to put their names into the origins of jazz
Alot of false info out there claiming this guy below was Mexican/Latino and using this false info as proof of latinos being Jazz founders
Dude was Creole of Color native to New Orleans whose fam migrated to mexico and then came back to New Orleans. Slick white/latino music critics tried to paint this dude as a Mexican to lay claims as Jazz being some sort mongrel music that comes from various nations
Lorenzo Tio, the real facts!
You have NO knowledge and are trying to push a certain narrative that doesn't match up with reality so all you can do is neg me and be disrespectful when I ain't even on that
if I was kicking some ol' revisionist history bullshyt I'd do the same thing
The south had a rich cultural history a LIFETIME before ADOS was free....when ADOS was in chains, couldn't be on the street, wasn't allowed to play instruments yet they somehow started shyt
chattel slavery ended in 1865....thats late af...shyt had been popping for decades in the south shyt like Blues, Ragtime Proto-Jazz was the puff daddy ADOS remix to what Caribbean blacks were doing for about a century Trinidad and Tobago was EARLY with damn near the whole culture as far as bringing it together like Hip-Hop did do some research I love ALL my people and ain't trying to put one over the other so I see shyt clearly we ALL played a part
IllmaticDelta
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The south had a rich cultural history a LIFETIME before ADOS was free....when ADOS was in chains, couldn't be on the street, wasn't allowed to play instruments yet they somehow started shyt
dude, what the hell are you talking about?
afram both slave and enslaved had a rich culture and ALWAYS played instruments
You do realize that there was a rich culture on southern plantations and the enslaved made/played music?
go read a book
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personaguy
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dude, what the hell are you talking about?
afram both slave and enslaved had a rich culture and ALWAYS played instruments
You do realize that their was a rich culture on southern plantations and the enslaved made/played music?
go read a book
Disrespectful as fukk
personaguy
All Star
You have NO knowledge and are trying to push a certain narrative that doesn't match up with reality so all you can do is neg me and be disrespectful when I ain't even on that
if I was kicking some ol' revisionist history bullshyt I'd do the same thing
The south had a rich cultural history a LIFETIME before ADOS was free....when ADOS was in chains, couldn't be on the street, wasn't allowed to play instruments yet they somehow started shyt
You deserve to get banned for your bullshyt
YOOO WTF
this nikka literally in here trying to rewrite history
the fukking nerve of you nikkas man,
Like i said alot of yall Caribbeans and africans function as nothing more than just Dark Skin white people. This is straight up culture vulture shyt they do.
K.O.N.Y
Superstar
Are you that fukking stupidYou have NO knowledge and are trying to push a certain narrative that doesn't match up with reality so all you can do is neg me and be disrespectful when I ain't even on that
if I was kicking some ol' revisionist history bullshyt I'd do the same thing
The south had a rich cultural history a LIFETIME before ADOS was free....when ADOS was in chains, couldn't be on the street, wasn't allowed to play instruments yet they somehow started shyt
to where you don't realize the Caribbean had slavery as well
seabreeze80
All Star
Herc has said over and over hip hop culture was already there before him. Why set this man up to get attacked breh? He always gave credit where it was due.
Are you that fukking stupid
to where you don't realize the Caribbean had slavery as well
Wasn't the same type of slavery they worked us to death and kept getting more slaves which led to a population shift so we were able to take over
they took ya'll knowledge of who ya'll really are and brainwashed ya'll
The whole ADOS movement is just a GAY movement in blackface but ADOS has such low self-esteem they don't have the balls to call it out for what it is so they just mindlessly follow like they always do....never thinking, always emotional, never creating always taking