African Migrants Capsize Own Ship In Hope Europeans Save Them

[Dr. Sebi Jr.]

The Wages of Wenchery

Might have to steal this one.

 

[Absalom's Thought]

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[YoungMasterGold]

Bad water in Flint,Michigan is your best example? Aside from the mishap, the people are still getting enough water to cook and clean. If the problem hasn't been fixed already, it will be fixed soon.

It's not my best example, it's just one example. I could mention more if needs be - targeting of Black people for mass incarceration in order to feed the beast that is private prisons - is another that comes immediately to mind.

In any case, it was more than just "Bad water in Flint", but I'll leave you to understate the issue, and point out that it's been almost two years and counting. It took voices other than Black Americans for any notice to be taken. It is not to suggest Black people are incapable of political pressure, it's just that it's not quite opportune at present.

Petitioned the UN over police shootings?

Despite those lost misguided black Americans, the UN has no authority over state issues in America.

Yeah, it didn't stop Black Americans from petitioning them, though. You know why? They were certain that despite having an African America as president, their voices were being ignored.

In a given year, police kill more whites than blacks so it's actually not as widespread outside of a few isolated incidents in which police were wrong for killing a black person.

Some seem to use per capita statistics only when making denigrating arguments against Blacks, but conveniently ignore it when it's to show the rate at which they're being killed by the police force. In any case, it's widespread enough to have triggered many protests and riots within the USA.

Like I said, if African Americans haven't been able to pressure their government to change those important issues that they feel affect them, it's unreasonable to believe they can put pressure on said government to affect the running of any African country.

Arguing that black Americans have no political power wouldn't be honest, arguing that black Americans are unorganized with their political power maybe a valid argument.However, I think you're blinded by a bias.Remember this, black Americans are first world Africans which means we have access and privileges afforded to us just for being born here.

I'll quote myself:

'I didn't say "Black Americans have no political power". I didn't even imply it. Instead, I stated that "I don't believe Black Americans can pressure the American government to change much in the way many African countries are governed." That much is true.'

I know many Americans - immediate African descent or otherwise - have certain privileges. It's that privilege that has informed the thinking, by some, that they understand every aspect of the plight of all refugees and migrants. It's the same privilege that has led them to believe they'd rather die by the bullet than escape mass misfortune. It's probably an aspect of the egotistical belief that their death will be meaningful enough to matter.

Africa's only hope is Black Americans because it's been over 28 years that I've been on this earth and not one person in Africa has come up with a plan to provide basic services like running water, drivable roads, a sewage system and a reliable electricity grid.

What the fukk? Not one person in Africa, eh? Now you're either dense or you're trolling. You clearly know nothing about any African countries if you truly believe that. Many African countries do in fact have all those things. No wonder you think the way you do: you know nothing about Africa, but you're enough of a fantasist to believe that Africa - yes the whole continent - needs you.

Basic infrastructure that most countries established decades ago many countries in Africa haven't even taken the first step.

Why after all these decades?

Name the many African countries haven't taken the first step?

Again, an organized group of black Americans lobbying the Congressional committee that oversees America's foreign policy towards Africa could force change in the way Africans are dealt with by America.

In the present climate? Extremely unlikely. Further, like I said previously, it's not in your government's interest to have a corrupt free Africa.

Black Europeans are mainly newly arrivals that come from different parts of Africa with no common HISTORY, whereas,Black Americans have been in America for several generations with a common HISTORY to unite around. So to say that black Europeans have a stronger voice than black Americans,in terms of the world scene,would be foolish if not moronic.

Most of the Black Europeans still hold strong ties to their respective African countries. They're definitely not under the delusion that a vague notion of common history is enough to understand the myriad of diverse cultures Africa possesses. That helps in influencing change.

Whether it's in America's interests or not to help African countries, it's in the best interests of African-Americans that America helps improve African countries.

At present that's irrelevant to your government.

 

[HollowPoints2]

It's not my best example, it's just one example. I could mention more if needs be - targeting of Black people for mass incarceration in order to feed the beast that is private prisons - is another that comes immediately to mind.[/ QUOTE]

Mass incarceration is your pathetic attempt to illustrate that black Americans have no political power?

Why must I explain basic shyt?

Unfortunately, a significant portion of American black men rather engage in illegal activities that are forbidden under us law whether how to view or small the offences. In other words, those individual black men put themselves in the situations which they were incarcerated. It's not like they're all innocent except for about 1%.

Are you using that as an example to show that black Americans have no political power? If so you're,dumber than I originally thought.

In any case, it was more than just "Bad water in Flint", but I'll leave you to understate the issue, and point out that it's been almost two years and counting. It took voices other than Black Americans for any notice to be taken. It is not to suggest Black people are incapable of political pressure, it's just that it's not quite opportune at present.

Understating the Flint Michigan Water Crisis?

Whose voice except for black Americans in Flint,Michigan forced the local and state governments to not only fix the problem but to provide the people with clean water while the problem was being fixed? It was black Americans who reached out to their political representatives in Flint, Michigan that caused action.I don't see your point about the water crisis mainly because those who were affected will be compensated civilly for any damages the water crisis caused.

If you're raising these points to try showing that black Americans have no political power,then you have failed miserably. Even if I give you arguments, the disposable income of black Americans could rebuild 3 different African countries in ONE year.

That's what bothers you about Black Americans,huh? I can see the shade you're throwing but it's all good lil nikka.

The shyt hole you or your parents come from, has not been able to establish basic infrastructure like running water, drivable roads or reliable electricity in the past 30 years even while there are African immigrants going to school in Europe but have no desire to apply the knowledge they learned to the infrastructure back

Yeah, it didn't stop Black Americans from petitioning them, though. You know why? They were certain that despite having an African America as president, their voices were being ignored.

How many black Americans petitioned the UN? For the second time, the United Nations has no authority over sovereign state issues in America. Despite the propaganda your hearing, police are not killing black Americans indiscriminately in fact,more white people are being killed by police in a given year so any petition to the UN would be misguided.

Again, black Americans are first world Africans with far more political reach than any other group of Africans on this planet. I know this fact bothers you because you come from a shyt hole but haven't been able to get it together for the past 40 years but you must accept it..

Some seem to use per capita statistics only when making denigrating arguments against Blacks, but conveniently ignore it when it's to show the rate at which they're being killed by the police force. In any case, it's widespread enough to have triggered many protests and riots within the USA

In proportion to the black male population in America, we do commit a disproportionate amount of crime.When American black men make up 4% of the countries population yet contribute to 50% of the homicides in this country, why wouldn't police be ready to shoot black men so fast?

How can 4% of a country's population make up 50% of the homicides committed in that country?

So miss me with that per capita bull shyt. The fake protesters are paid professional opportunist who are looking for any reason to cause commotion.

What the fukk? Not one person in Africa, eh? Now you're either dense or you're trolling. You clearly know nothing about any African countries if you truly believe that. Many African countries do in fact have all those things. No wonder you think the way you do: you know nothing about Africa, but you're enough of a fantasist to believe that Africa - yes the whole continent - needs you.



Name the many African countries haven't taken the first step?




In the present climate? Extremely unlikely. Further, like I said previously, it's not in your government's interest to have a corrupt free Africa.

I've been to seven countries in Africa since 2005 ,as a matter fact, I own property in one. Can you name three African countries with reliable electricity 24 hours a day and running water? It doesn't matter what's in the best interest of the American government, it's what's in the best interest of black Americans for Africa to prosper like Israel did under the help of Israeli Americans.

Most of the Black Europeans still hold strong ties to their respective African countries. They're definitely not under the delusion that a vague notion of common history is enough to understand the myriad of diverse cultures Africa possesses. That helps in influencing change.
At present that's irrelevant to your government.

Then why aren't those black Europeans taking the knowledge back to their home country to apply it on the infrastructure?

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

Those youtube comments on that vid though

 

[YoungMasterGold]

Mass incarceration is your pathetic attempt to illustrate that black Americans have no political power?

Why must I explain basic shyt?

Unfortunately, a significant portion of American black men rather engage in illegal activities that are forbidden under us law whether how to view or small the offences. In other words, those individual black men put themselves in the situations which they were incarcerated. It's not like they're all innocent except for about 1%.

Are you using that as an example to show that black Americans have no political power? If so you're,dumber than I originally thought.

Understating the Flint Michigan Water Crisis?

Whose voice except for black Americans in Flint,Michigan forced the local and state governments to not only fix the problem but to provide the people with clean water while the problem was being fixed? It was black Americans who reached out to their political representatives in Flint, Michigan that caused action.I don't see your point about the water crisis mainly because those who were affected will be compensated civilly for any damages the water crisis caused.

If you're raising these points to try showing that black Americans have no political power,then you have failed miserably.

You seem to be having a lot trouble with comprehension. Lead in the water of Americans, Mass incarceration of Black Americans, and the issue of Blacks being killed at a higher rate are some issues that indicate Black Americans have more need for their political power - to what extent it exists - within their borders first.

To quote my earlier post: "It is not to suggest Black people are incapable of political pressure, it's just that it's not quite opportune at present."

I'll extend it: there's very little, other than your say so, to suggest that, in the near future, African-Americans can/will muster the strength to lean on the American government to cause change in corrupt governance in Africa.

Even if I give you arguments, the disposable income of black Americans could rebuild 3 different African countries in ONE year.

Their well-wishes can also build castles in clouds, but no one expects any of that so it's a red-herring.

That's what bothers you about Black Americans,huh? I can see the shade you're throwing but it's all good lil nikka.

The shyt hole you or your parents come from, has not been able to establish basic infrastructure like running water, drivable roads or reliable electricity in the past 30 years even while there are African immigrants going to school in Europe but have no desire to apply the knowledge they learned to the infrastructure back

If you say so.

Yeah, it didn't stop Black Americans from petitioning them, though. You know why? They were certain that despite having an African America as president, their voices were being ignored.

How many black Americans petitioned the UN? For the second time, the United Nations has no authority over sovereign state issues in America. Despite the propaganda your hearing, police are not killing black Americans indiscriminately in fact,more white people are being killed by police in a given year so any petition to the UN would be misguided.

African Americans are killed at a higher rate. That's the key point. Per capita. In any case, it's enough of an issue to have made citizens of America - Black Americas - attempt a different political route. Yes, the UN can't control the US - that's irrelevant. The relevance is in pointing out the frustration of the disenfranchised. The riots and protests by African Americans all indicate the same thing: these are people who feel unheard by their government.

Again, black Americans are first world Africans with far more political reach than any other group of Africans on this planet. I know this fact bothers you because you come from a shyt hole but haven't been able to get it together for the past 40 years but you must accept it..

Aight.

Some seem to use per capita statistics only when making denigrating arguments against Blacks, but conveniently ignore it when it's to show the rate at which they're being killed by the police force. In any case, it's widespread enough to have triggered many protests and riots within the USA

In proportion to the black male population in America, we do commit a disproportionate amount of crime.When American black men make up 4% of the countries population yet contribute to 50% of the homicides in this country, why wouldn't police be ready to shoot black men so fast?

How can 4% of a country's population make up 50% of the homicides committed in that country?

So miss me with that per capita bull shyt. The fake protesters are paid professional opportunist who are looking for any reason to cause commotion.

Perhaps someone should investigate the reason the 4% of the country's population make up 50% of homicides. It certainly isn't inborn, so there must be some other reason there's such a high rate of killings. One's almost inclined to think it might have something to do with socio-economic factors. Factors that lend themselves to the political voice the group might possess.

So the protesters are all fake and "paid professional opportunist who are looking for any reason to cause commotion"? Yeah, stands to reason your bubble of fantasy extends to that, too. I guess that's one way to minimise protesting against police aggression. Then again, you seem bent on justifying murder by police, so I guess it's par for the course of people of your ilk.

What the fukk? Not one person in Africa, eh? Now you're either dense or you're trolling. You clearly know nothing about any African countries if you truly believe that. Many African countries do in fact have all those things. No wonder you think the way you do: you know nothing about Africa, but you're enough of a fantasist to believe that Africa - yes the whole continent - needs you.



Name the many African countries haven't taken the first step?




In the present climate? Extremely unlikely. Further, like I said previously, it's not in your government's interest to have a corrupt free Africa.

I've been to seven countries in Africa since 2005 ,as a matter fact, I own property in one. Can you name three African countries with reliable electricity 24 hours a day and running water?

Thanks to the power of Google: Algeria, Egypt, Libya (before it was attacked by the coalition of enforced African coups), and not too far behind, Gabon.

It's doubtful that anyone that's been to seven African countries would spout such nonsense as:

"because it's been over 28 years that I've been on this earth and not one person in Africa has come up with a plan to provide basic services like running water, drivable roads, a sewage system and a reliable electricity grid."

Those are your words. It ignores the reality that many African countries do in fact have those things in place for the majority.

It doesn't matter what's in the best interest of the American government, it's what's in the best interest of black Americans for Africa to prosper like Israel did under the help of Israeli Americans.

Of course it matters what's in the best interest of the American government - no government will ever act from a position of disinterest. Sad to say, but at present African Americans aren't in the same political position as the Israelis. However, the tide is changing, and the possibility of attaining that sort of power is within the grasp of Black people in America.

Most of the Black Europeans still hold strong ties to their respective African countries. They're definitely not under the delusion that a vague notion of common history is enough to understand the myriad of diverse cultures Africa possesses. That helps in influencing change.
At present that's irrelevant to your government.

Then why aren't those black Europeans taking the knowledge back to their home country to apply it on the infrastructure?

Many are doing exactly that. They're not just applying it to the infrastructure, but to education and cultural norms. It will take time for the results to take enough shape to be appraised, but if you do ever get the chance to go to a few African countries, you'll see the changes happening. I know I have.

 

[HollowPoints2]

You seem to be having a lot trouble with comprehension. Lead in the water of Americans, Mass incarceration of Black Americans, and the issue of Blacks being killed at a higher rate are some issues that indicate Black Americans have more need for their political power - to what extent it exists - within their borders first.

To quote my earlier post: "It is not to suggest Black people are incapable of political pressure, it's just that it's not quite opportune at present."

I'll extend it: there's very little, other than your say so, to suggest that, in the near future, African-Americans can/will muster the strength to lean on the American government to cause change in corrupt governance in Africa.



Their well-wishes can also build castles in clouds, but no one expects any of that so it's a red-herring.



If you say so.




African Americans are killed at a higher rate. That's the key point. Per capita. In any case, it's enough of an issue to have made citizens of America - Black Americas - attempt a different political route. Yes, the UN can't control the US - that's irrelevant. The relevance is in pointing out the frustration of the disenfranchised. The riots and protests by African Americans all indicate the same thing: these are people who feel unheard by their government.



Aight.



Perhaps someone should investigate the reason the 4% of the country's population make up 50% of homicides. It certainly isn't inborn, so there must be some other reason there's such a high rate of killings. One's almost inclined to think it might have something to do with socio-economic factors. Factors that lend themselves to the political voice the group might possess.

So the protesters are all fake and "paid professional opportunist who are looking for any reason to cause commotion"? Yeah, stands to reason your bubble of fantasy extends to that, too. I guess that's one way to minimise protesting against police aggression. Then again, you seem bent on justifying murder by police, so I guess it's par for the course of people of your ilk.



Thanks to the power of Google: Algeria, Egypt, Libya (before it was attacked by the coalition of enforced African coups), and not too far behind, Gabon.

It's doubtful that anyone that's been to seven African countries would spout such nonsense as:

"because it's been over 28 years that I've been on this earth and not one person in Africa has come up with a plan to provide basic services like running water, drivable roads, a sewage system and a reliable electricity grid."

Those are your words. It ignores the reality that many African countries do in fact have those things in place for the majority.



Of course it matters what's in the best interest of the American government - no government will ever act from a position of disinterest. Sad to say, but at present African Americans aren't in the same political position as the Israelis. However, the tide is changing, and the possibility of attaining that sort of power is within the grasp of Black people in America.



Many are doing exactly that. They're not just applying it to the infrastructure, but to education and cultural norms. It will take time for the results to take enough shape to be appraised, but if you do ever get the chance to go to a few African countries, you'll see the changes happening. I know I have.

You're full of shyt.

It's been twenty eight years that I've been on this earth and many countries in Africa haven't even established in house plumbing, reliable electricity, and drivable roads. The dictators have the funds for these projects,they just don't see the value in investing in their country. Why are you arguing against black Americans holding these dictators accountable by lobbying the congressional committee that oversees America's foreign policy towards Africa?

Following your logic, our kids will see another 30 years of Africa not having the basic infrastructure. No country has stepped up with in the 28 years I've been living to help Africa build a reliable power grid that gives them 24/7 electricity or a stable water supply that's able to reach the entire population.

Who else is going to help?

Your best bet will be black Americans who are first world Africans. I know that bothers you or it may sound cocky but it's the truth,ok?

Despite the social ills you outlined to try and minimize our political power, the truth stands that black Americans could change America's foreign policy towards Africa.

Now go fukk yourself.

 

[ejthompson23]

You c00n ass nikkas who love making them bullshyt ass ancient Egyptians was black threads this exactly what I was talking about...modern Africans willingly dying to leave Africa while you sheltered ass Negros worried about Egyptians who don't give a duck and tried everything under the sun to erase you blacks out their history